Callaway C16 is very similar to the Pininfarina design sketch for 550 Maranello

[Brangeta]

Check this out, this is from about 1995 I'm guessing since the 550 was first made in 1997:

The C16 is better looking, but that front clip is very familiar looking!

 

[John H. Christensen]

YES THEY ALWAYS COPIE CALLAWAY!!!

 

[TurboLuigi]

Hmm...

There's always been some similarities

-Luigi
:cool

 

[Jeroenvgfn]

Hmm...

There's always been some similarities

-Luigi
:cool

Brandon, and what about your own favorite car ???

The C8 Aerobody ?

wasn't that designed in an earlier stage as the FIAT SPORT

 

[Brangeta]

Brandon, and what about your own favorite car ???

The C8 Aerobody ?

wasn't that designed in an earlier stage as the FIAT SPORT

Very good! I just didn't want this topic migrating into the subforum by mentioning the C8. I'm not sure what the Fiat Sport is though, do you have a pic?

The C8 aerobody was designed before this Ferrari design (I would imagine--I don't know the date of this drawing), so I'd say Ferrari copied Callaway!

The C12... that's a hard one. The Ferrari 550 came out in 1997 and this drawing looks nothing like it, so it must have been an early rendering, perhaps done in 1995. I'd say, if anything, this drawing/design was created before Paul designed the C12. The headlights on the C12 are basically just one gigantic bulb, so I don't think they are based on this drawing. The C16 on the other hand, has headlights very similar to this. It's possibly coincidental, but I'd imagine Paul has seen this drawing before since designers tend to study the competition.

Ferrari had a much earlier model (1950s I believe) that looked similar to this. There's a model that has been posted in this forum before with chrome winglets, but that's not the one I have in mind. I'll post a pic if I have one of it when I get home today...

 

[John H. Christensen]

One thing to note; a CAMAERO bodied car is not a C8.
To be a C8 it must have a Callaway Engine!

 

[Brangeta]

One thing to note; a CAMAERO bodied car is not a C8.
To be a C8 it must have a Callaway Engine!

Very true.

So technically it's the CamAerobody, not C8 Aerobody, though in order for it to be a C8, it has to have the CamAerobody, or else it's just a SuperNatural Camaro.

 

[John H. Christensen]

Very true.

So technically it's the CamAerobody, not C8 Aerobody, though in order for it to be a C8, it has to have the CamAerobody, or else it's just a SuperNatural Camaro.

YES!

 

[*89x2*]

One thing to note; a CAMAERO bodied car is not a C8.
To be a C8 it must have a Callaway Engine!

...and the same can be said for Corvettes with just bodies - a Callaway Corvette, they are not ;squint:

 

[shopview]

"...and the same can be said for Corvettes with just bodies - a Callaway Corvette, they are not ;squint: "

:nono

May be accurate for Camaros but not for corvettes according to Callaway....I have asked this question several times regarding Corvettes from 1992-2005 in person at Callaway

e.g. an Aerobodied mid nineties Corvette is a Callaway Corvette.....however, it is not a Callaway Supernatural Corvette (SNAT) until the engine is purchased

 

[Brangeta]

SuperNatural Camaro:
Camaro with SuperNatural engine.

Callaway C8:
CamAerobody, SuperNatural engine.

And as I understand it...

Callaway Camaro:
Camaro with CamAerobody. One look at the rear bumper at the big CALLAWAY text molded in, and you know Callaway isn't just considering this a random bodykit. They branded it as a Callaway. No mention of C8 ANYWHERE on the body though, so it isn't a C8 until it receives the SNAT and nose badge.

Of course... when I get my Callaway Camaro (non-C8) someday, I'll still be calling it a C8 to those who ask what it is at car shows.

I'm sure the same applies to the Corvettes.

...:ugh... we are all really off topic now...

I mentioned earlier that I'd post some classic Ferraris that remind me of contemporary/modern Callaway products:

Ferrari 196 SP:

Ferrari 330 P3/P4:

Ferrari 330:

The top one has the same general expression as the C16 from the front, and as a bonus feature, has glass like the TT Speedsters.

The middle has the winglets.

And the bottom has the grill and...if you'd consider the chrome bumpers winglets.... you may.

It'd be interesting to hear what Paul would say his biggest inspiration was. The inspiration for the CTTC/SNAT aerobody is a mystery to me. I can't think of a single other car with holes in the front except for the Ferrari 250 GTO.

 

[*89x2*]

It'd be interesting to hear what Paul would say his biggest inspiration was. The inspiration for the CTTC/SNAT aerobody is a mystery to me. I can't think of a single other car with holes in the front except for the Ferrari 250 GTO.

Brangeta, do not overlook the Porsche 924 GT and Turbo series cars from the early 80's :cool

 

[John H. Christensen]

SuperNatural Camaro:
Camaro with SuperNatural engine.

Callaway C8:
CamAerobody, SuperNatural engine.

And as I understand it...

Callaway Camaro:
Camaro with CamAerobody. One look at the rear bumper at the big CALLAWAY text molded in, and you know Callaway isn't just considering this a random bodykit. They branded it as a Callaway. No mention of C8 ANYWHERE on the body though, so it isn't a C8 until it receives the SNAT and nose badge.

Of course... when I get my Callaway Camaro (non-C8) someday, I'll still be calling it a C8 to those who ask what it is at car shows.

I'm sure the same applies to the Corvettes.

...:ugh... we are all really off topic now...

I mentioned earlier that I'd post some classic Ferraris that remind me of contemporary/modern Callaway products:

Ferrari 196 SP:

Ferrari 330 P3/P4:

Ferrari 330:

The top one has the same general expression as the C16 from the front, and as a bonus feature, has glass like the TT Speedsters.

The middle has the winglets.

And the bottom has the grill and...if you'd consider the chrome bumpers winglets.... you may.

It'd be interesting to hear what Paul would say his biggest inspiration was. The inspiration for the CTTC/SNAT aerobody is a mystery to me. I can't think of a single other car with holes in the front except for the Ferrari 250 GTO.

SO, IF SOMEONE MAKES A FERRARI BODY KIT FOR A CORVETTE AND IT SAYS FERRARI ON IT; WOULD IT BE CALLED A FERRARI???:ugh

 

[Brangeta]

SO, IF SOMEONE MAKES A FERRARI BODY KIT FOR A CORVETTE AND IT SAYS FERRARI ON IT; WOULD IT BE CALLED A FERRARI???:ugh

If Ferrari made the bodykit... yes!

 

[TurboLuigi]

OK.... It seems to me that you guys are

To understand what Callaway considers each of their cars, you only have to go to their website and see what they call each of their projects.

In the case of the Camaro, "Like the SuperNatural Corvette, the C8 offers a range of performance and appearance enhancements to enable owners to tailor their car to their needs, tastes and resources."

Notice that they use the word Appearance Enhancement. With out the performance, the CamAerobody is just a kit (appearance enhancement). The same goes for the Corvette. Its not a Callaway Corvette until it has the engine (B2K or SNAT). The Aerobody is an Appearance Enhancement.

You can apply the same rationale to the current C6 platform. The current Callaway Corvette is the SC560/600. The C16 however, in addition to the engine, has the Appearance Enhancements (and other currently included components which are meant to work together as a system) which makes it a C16. Furthermore, you are not able to get the body without the engine.

As an owner you can call your car whatever you want but in the eyes of Callaway Cars, they define what their cars are.

-Luigi
:cool

 

[John H. Christensen]

OK.... It seems to me that you guys are

To understand what Callaway considers each of their cars, you only have to go to their website and see what they call each of their projects.

In the case of the Camaro, "Like the SuperNatural Corvette, the C8 offers a range of performance and appearance enhancements to enable owners to tailor their car to their needs, tastes and resources."

Notice that they use the word Appearance Enhancement. With out the performance, the CamAerobody is just a kit (appearance enhancement). The same goes for the Corvette. Its not a Callaway Corvette until it has the engine (B2K or SNAT). The Aerobody is an Appearance Enhancement.

You can apply the same rationale to the current C6 platform. The current Callaway Corvette is the SC560/600. The C16 however, in addition to the engine, has the Appearance Enhancements (and other currently included components which are meant to work together as a system) which makes it a C16. Furthermore, you are not able to get the body without the engine.

As an owner you can call your car whatever you want but in the eyes of Callaway Cars, they define what their cars are.

-Luigi
:cool

LUIGI, I AGREE WITH YOU.BUT SOMETIMES; I JUST LIKE TO PULL STRINGS.

 

[Peer81]

Alright here my view on things.

When I looked at the C16 and the rear of a Ferrari 599 i thought damn those look very similar. And when you look back there are very much connection between several different cars. The C3 wasn't unique for there 4 in a row red rear lights, Ferrari was the one the looked at but is it a problem?

A few years ago my graduation project for the bachelor was a tall building all self designed etc etc and what do you think. Googled last year for something different and there it was. A rough copy of "my" building only the one on the net was build 5 years ago! So it's not always on purpose to copy a thing or copy the idea.

With the C16 I finally saw Callaway isn't designing upgraded versions of Corvette's and Camaro's etc etc. But they use the base model to make them into there own unique Callaway machines with there own Callaway signature!

Groeten Peter

 

[Brangeta]

To simplify, one could just say they own a Callaway bodied Corvette or Callaway bodied Camaro.

 

[TurboLuigi]

Brangeta,

That would be the technicaly accurate description for a car without the Callaway Engine.



-Luigi
:cool