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Hi there, maybe you cam/head guys can give me suggestions on what cam to run on my car? I am looking for this to still be streetable/drivable. Basically, i really do not want to sacrifice much drivability if possible while still making the most power i can free up from this motor.
 
I have an 01 Z06 and about two years ago I did a cam...

Quite honestly if I had to do it over? I'd go with a bigger cam. What I have is nice and everyone told me go bigger...but did I listen? NOPE>>>>!

So my suggestion (and this is for a street Z06) I'd go with the LG G3X5 on a 114lsa and dual comp 921 spring kit. If you have the extra money laying around? I'd go for the 205 AFR heads for about 2 grand...and sell your ls6 heads for about 750 dollars..As far as headers go? I'd suggest LG or Kooks 1 and 3/4 long tubes...

Of course I'd recommend the ASP 25% reduction pully since the labor is free...(300 w/belts..)

Add it all up? and guess what? Id' now do instead ...A supercharger with stock manifolds ....Any of them will give you 500 rwhp pretty easy...I like the novi or paxton and if you can wait...go for the kenne Belle supercharger..

If I were to start over? I'd go the supercharger route....Its just that much easier..and I'd leave everything else stock. I heard that magnuson offers for 200 dollars a 3 year/36K mile warranty and thats a nice feature...Thats 8200 installed with painted hood/warranty and about all the hp you'll need...

Neat and clean and done so many times they are fool proof..

Thats what I would do in hindsight. (can't really do it once you do the cam so decide up front.)

I went with a small 224/224 .563 114lsa cam with headers and have ~ 400rwhp 380 rwtq...Nice setup but after a year you'll want more...

My suggestion...go for the supercharger this christmas...Your car deserves a nice present.

HTH

2001 ZO6 TTP 224/224 114lsa Cam Pkg 396rwhp 380 rwtq, dual crane valvesprings, Halltech Tunnel Ram, FLP headers, ASP 25% Pully, 3.73 Getrag Rear,2004 Z06 shocks,Shaner S2 TB,Hurst
 
well, currently, i already have full length headers/full exhaust/breathless perfomance intake. Thats about it and im stuck at 360 at the wheel, but of course that was on a really hot day. But besides that, i am looking to be at least at 400 at the wheels. As far as the cam goes, as long as im not shaking to death or turning off at red lights, then im good. And as for heads/cam or supercharger. I really am not sure which I plan to do first, but i know i will be doing one or the other very very soon.
 
If your not sure which way your going to go...then hold off on the cam.. I think the cam necessary for supercharging is different than for a good heads and cam package.

Hindsights 20/20 but I'd pass on the cam and do a supercharger even with the long tube headers...JMO..

I think a LPE GT3 cam is best for supercharger...ie...blower cam but its not all that great for a heads /cam car...

When the Kenne belle s/c hits this winter I think a lot of other types superchargers will drop a bit in price...

I think you can do 420rwhp with stock heads/Comp 921 dual spring kit and the LG G3X5 114lsa cam...(but thats too much for a supercharger) so decide up front where you want to go...(figure 440 to 475rwhp with AFR heads)

Some guys have said the G3X5 with its 114lsa is a pretty good street cam...IF I didn't have to worry about emissions here in jersey..I'd have probably gone that route...Its pretty dam impressive...

I can say the 224/224 .563 114lsa cam with dual cranes is a sleeper package ....IMHO...but some may question that. I just think 1 year or 2 years later....the cams not powerful enough and I want more...(not going nuts at the track or even the street but I would like more)

Swapping heads at this point with my 224/224 114lsa cam...is only worth about 20 ponies so it doesn't pay.

If your thinking of doing heads later...remember the dual spring kit that supports the various cams is (if I remember correctly?) 300/400 dollars...or more...so your actually better off doing the AFR heads with the dual comp 921's installed and selling off your stock ls6 heads for 750..

I almost did that a few months after I installed the cam with crane dual spring kit....but nobody wanted ls6 heads with the aftermarket spring kit..? Go figure..so I gave up...at that was at 800....I actually had better luck almost selling them without the spring kit ..(which I had just paid quite a few dollars for) Go figure?

Just as well though......the extra money at that point was better spent somewhere else.

If you do the AFR heads? Another suggestion is to probably follow Tony Mamo's of AFR's suggestion to go with his 224/228 .588 114lsa cam

He got some good numbers but tuning was really key. I think he got to 450 rwhp and stock like behavior...A lot of guys were running ~ 430 rwhp with this set up...

Maybe AA Andy is running 224/228 .588 114lsa cams in his supercharger packages so you could go either way...

Check his supercharger cam suggestions first so you can see what flexibility that specific cam affords you...

You don't have emissions testing in florida so you have a lot of choices..

Here in NJ it is like california so that was a big decision maker in chosing my baby" cam...IT passes out in california so I knew I wouldn't have trouble here in NJ...

N/a? I'd look long and hard at the LG cam ....but not sure if you were going to go heads or supercharging....I'd look at the 224/228 114lsa cam...Check out www.ls1tech.com and do a search AFR heads to see the read out on it..

definitely dual comp 921's...as the valve springs are the weak link in any aftermarket cam setup and they are the best out there...

Thats the place to spend the money if you go with a lift higher than .580...IMHO...

Lose a valve spring and you could lose a motor...With the dual springs your protected so you don't drop the valve......I still believe the comp 921's are the best and have not heard of any breaking...

I chose the crane duals because my lift is a measely .563 and they are rated to .650 but later many tuners suggest its good up to .600...

I like a lot of comfort room on valve spring kit versus cam lift..

Some guys like the new patriot golds which are less expensive valve springs...I'd suggest the 921's..

Don't need any hassles...IMHO

Good luck...
 
JBsC5 said:
If your not sure which way your going to go...then hold off on the cam.. I think the cam necessary for supercharging is different than for a good heads and cam package.

Hindsights 20/20 but I'd pass on the cam and do a supercharger even with the long tube headers...JMO..

I think a LPE GT3 cam is best for supercharger...ie...blower cam but its not all that great for a heads /cam car...

When the Kenne belle s/c hits this winter I think a lot of other types superchargers will drop a bit in price...

I think you can do 420rwhp with stock heads/Comp 921 dual spring kit and the LG G3X5 114lsa cam...(but thats too much for a supercharger) so decide up front where you want to go...(figure 440 to 475rwhp with AFR heads)

Some guys have said the G3X5 with its 114lsa is a pretty good street cam...IF I didn't have to worry about emissions here in jersey..I'd have probably gone that route...Its pretty dam impressive...

I can say the 224/224 .563 114lsa cam with dual cranes is a sleeper package ....IMHO...but some may question that. I just think 1 year or 2 years later....the cams not powerful enough and I want more...(not going nuts at the track or even the street but I would like more)

Swapping heads at this point with my 224/224 114lsa cam...is only worth about 20 ponies so it doesn't pay.

If your thinking of doing heads later...remember the dual spring kit that supports the various cams is (if I remember correctly?) 300/400 dollars...or more...so your actually better off doing the AFR heads with the dual comp 921's installed and selling off your stock ls6 heads for 750..

I almost did that a few months after I installed the cam with crane dual spring kit....but nobody wanted ls6 heads with the aftermarket spring kit..? Go figure..so I gave up...at that was at 800....I actually had better luck almost selling them without the spring kit ..(which I had just paid quite a few dollars for) Go figure?

Just as well though......the extra money at that point was better spent somewhere else.

If you do the AFR heads? Another suggestion is to probably follow Tony Mamo's of AFR's suggestion to go with his 224/228 .588 114lsa cam

He got some good numbers but tuning was really key. I think he got to 450 rwhp and stock like behavior...A lot of guys were running ~ 430 rwhp with this set up...

Maybe AA Andy is running 224/228 .588 114lsa cams in his supercharger packages so you could go either way...

Check his supercharger cam suggestions first so you can see what flexibility that specific cam affords you...

You don't have emissions testing in florida so you have a lot of choices..

Here in NJ it is like california so that was a big decision maker in chosing my baby" cam...IT passes out in california so I knew I wouldn't have trouble here in NJ...

N/a? I'd look long and hard at the LG cam ....but not sure if you were going to go heads or supercharging....I'd look at the 224/228 114lsa cam...Check out www.ls1tech.com and do a search AFR heads to see the read out on it..

definitely dual comp 921's...as the valve springs are the weak link in any aftermarket cam setup and they are the best out there...

Thats the place to spend the money if you go with a lift higher than .580...IMHO...

Lose a valve spring and you could lose a motor...With the dual springs your protected so you don't drop the valve......I still believe the comp 921's are the best and have not heard of any breaking...

I chose the crane duals because my lift is a measely .563 and they are rated to .650 but later many tuners suggest its good up to .600...

I like a lot of comfort room on valve spring kit versus cam lift..

Some guys like the new patriot golds which are less expensive valve springs...I'd suggest the 921's..

Don't need any hassles...IMHO

Good luck...

I agree with everything he said, except the emissions in NJ.:D Check my sig. for my list of mods and results.:beer
 
I realize that they have now changed the emissions testing procedure in NJ to one that involves just a plug into the pcm to make sure its not throwing any codes and that its operating properly.....but when I did the cam a few years back...the shops were strictly using the dynometer and a sniffer in the tailpipe..

The 224/224 114lsa was the only cam that I could find that passed emissions sniffer testing over at www.ls1tech.com that passed in california...

25 years ago I had a modified car that had to go to a "special "shop for emissions compliance in NY and it was such a pain in the @ss....I just didn't want to re live that experience 25 years later.. ..

Of course after I did my cam install NJ went from a dynometer and actual exhaust reading off the tailpipe to pcm reading...(which the G3X5 cam would pass) My loss... :lol:

There was rumor of the change coming....before I did mine...I just didn't want to take the chance etc...

In florida there is not even an inspection....so your free to decide whatever you like....

HTH
 
JBsC5 said:
I realize that they have now changed the emissions testing procedure in NJ to one that involves just a plug into the pcm to make sure its not throwing any codes and that its operating properly.....but when I did the cam a few years back...the shops were strictly using the dynometer and a sniffer in the tailpipe..

The 224/224 114lsa was the only cam that I could find that passed emissions sniffer testing over at www.ls1tech.com that passed in california...

25 years ago I had a modified car that had to go to a "special "shop for emissions compliance in NY and it was such a pain in the @ss....I just didn't want to re live that experience 25 years later.. ..

Of course after I did my cam install NJ went from a dynometer and actual exhaust reading off the tailpipe to pcm reading...(which the G3X5 cam would pass) My loss... :lol:

There was rumor of the change coming....before I did mine...I just didn't want to take the chance etc...

In florida there is not even an inspection....so your free to decide whatever you like....

HTH
;) I agree on those selections too. I actually like the 224/228 114lsa selection.
 

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