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Can a car be judged w/out a tank sticker??

jims427400

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I'm looking at another 68 tripower L71, owner says its NCRS certified. Bloomington and 2 other certificates, not sure yet what they are but he does not have the tank sticker.
Will the NCRS certificates authenticate this car as being #s matching and a true 435hp car..
Its had a complete body off restore.
 

tls630

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The NCRS certificate is good on what they were presented to be judged.You are not required to have a tank sticker in hand.The best place for a tank sticker is on the tank.They only judge what they see in other words.I have a 69 with the tank sticker on it and that is where it is going to stay.If you like the car and you have checked everything as far as dates and part # 's and trim tag that is about all you can do, i'd buy it.
 

Paul T

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The NCRS does not "certify" cars. The NCRS judging sheet only shows what was presented to the judges and does not guarantee that every part is correct and original. There are some very good fakes out there and some are almost impossible to catch. Even tank stickers have been known to be forged. It is definitely a buyer beware world and your knowledge or the knowledge of the best experts is all you can depend on. The more documentation the better. If the car looks good, the documents are in order, and the price is right, then seriously consider the purchase. Good luck.
 

jims427400

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tls630 and Paul T,
thank you very much for the clarification. The car has ownership back to original owner and tons of reciepts.
I'm just kind of surprised the a car can be judged and awarded and it actually could have been a small block car. ( is that rite )

Jim
 
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the car is judged as presented on a specific date - the experience of the judging team on a given date will determine how "original" a particular car "appears to be" on that given date - hopefully, when the car is judged at a later date, it will receive a "similar" score even though the judges have/may have changed - of course, no guarantees are in\mplied, nor should any be assumed as to the authenticity of any numbers - it is each individual prospective owner's responsibility to perform "due diligence" and ensure they are getting what they think they are buying
 

red70vette

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If you can fool the judges you can get a Top Flight with a fake car. It has been done. The tank sticker is far from the Holy Grail. It does not have the Vin# on it so you can take it from a wreck and build your car to match Or you can buy one on EBAY for about $200. Well worth it if you are trying to fake a car and get big bucks.

The state of the hobby today makes it very difficult to buy a big block car with any certainty that it is real. The higher the price the bigger the risk. If there is documentation back to original ownership check the documentation carefully and if you are really concerned contact the previous owners. Unfortunately there are no guarantees.

The NCRS and Bloomington certification only tells you that it has many of the correct numbers. Look at the judging sheets for exactly what was wrong with the car when it was judged. You can lose points for non original parts and still make a Top Flight. If you are not experienced and are looking at a high dollar car get an experienced Corvette person to help you evaluate the car. Just remember "May the buyer beware" there are no guarantees.
 
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NCRS doesn't judge ANY paper documentation, as it can all be faked; the car is judged as it's presented on the field, and its as-presented configuration is evaluated based on the VIN, trim tag, and many other "clues".

:beer
 

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