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silver 80

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I know that everyone wants to remove the cats but I want to install dual cats on my dual exhaust. I was wondering where to place them, or how close to the engine to put them.
thanks
tom
 
As close to the engine as possible. Cats need to be hot to work. The reason dual cats are rare on production cars, is that a single bank of cylinders usually has trouble properly heating the catalyst. Ideally, the cats would be in the exhaust manifold. Actually, there is some research being done on manifolds with integral converters. Supposedly, they will eventually be standard equipment, and offer greater efficiency with less backpressure.

Just remember two things:

1. Dual cats are no more legal than no cat. The laws are quite specific about the emissions equipment remaining exactly as originally-installed. Enforcement is low, but if you want dual cats to remain legal on principle, save the money, 'cause they aren't.

2. Catalytic converters reduce some pollutants, but increase others. They aren't an "environmental" thing. They are a smog thing. They reduce smog-forming pollutants, but increase overall pollution. So if you want them in order to save the environment, think again...

But, it's your car, and if you want to have dual cats, just try and get them as close as possible to the engine, so they will warm up.

Joe
 
MaineShark said:
2. Catalytic converters reduce some pollutants, but increase others. They aren't an "environmental" thing. They are a smog thing. They reduce smog-forming pollutants, but increase overall pollution. So if you want them in order to save the environment, think again...
Joe,
Can you expand on this or provide some links?

tom...
 
Cats create a dramatic increase in backpressure. The engine has to burn more fuel to account for the added resistance. Sort of like towing a trailer behind your car all the time.

While the cat eliminates nitrous oxides and such, which contribute to smog, it increases the overall mass of emissions (including all other pollutants), by increasing the fuel use.

Cars would get much better gas mileage without cats...

Joe
 
MaineShark said:
Cats create a dramatic increase in backpressure. The engine has to burn more fuel to account for the added resistance. Sort of like towing a trailer behind your car all the time.

While the cat eliminates nitrous oxides and such, which contribute to smog, it increases the overall mass of emissions (including all other pollutants), by increasing the fuel use.

Cars would get much better gas mileage without cats...
I could agree for the original cats, they really cloged things up. But not the modern cats as they are high efficency and high flow. In the first cats the exhaust has to go through a mass of pellets. Modern cats have a stright through pipes.

tom...
 
Bob,
so it looks like the cats are after the crossmember with an H pipe.
could you tell me how you came to the location? I don't have the cats yet but they are on the way.

Tom 73
I did get the high flow cats 2.5" in and out, for around $50 a piece.

MaineShark,
I know they are not legal according the the feds but then when I bought the vette it didn't have any of the smog stuff just the old cat with the pellets. Now i have the true duals and I'm wanting to put some kind of cat on them.

Burglar
Thanks for the site.
 
Tom73 said:
I could agree for the original cats, they really cloged things up. But not the modern cats as they are high efficency and high flow. In the first cats the exhaust has to go through a mass of pellets. Modern cats have a stright through pipes.

Even modern cats provide a large restriction. Not as bad as older cats, but still quite large.

Joe
 

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