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I don't care what the spin is from GM or what kind of BS rumors all the freaking Internet experts are making-up.

C6 is an evolutionary car based on C5.


Why?
Well, for one thing, the basic C5 structure and suspension are very sound designs. It's a great basis for a major update and a whole new car is not needed. Also, C6 is coming after only 8 model years of C5 whereas C4 ran 12 and C3 ran 13 MYs. Again, a whole new car is not needed.

The base C6 Targa and Convertible will use a structure--perimeter frame and closed structural tunnel--similar to C5. They will also use a suspension and powertrain that is similar in layout. Wheel base is a bit longer but overall length is said to be a bit shorter.

Is evolutionary a bad thing?

Hell No!
The base engine will be a 366 cuin Gen 4 V8 of about 400hp (many say it's 405). The Gen 4 will introduce Displacement on Demand and variable cam phasing. It's unknown if the base engine will also have the much-discussed three-valve heads. My guess is the Targa's weight will somewhere between where the C5 base and Z06 are. I suspect that '05 base car will just about equal the performance of today's Z06.

As for the '06 Coupe (Z06), my guess is that's where we'll see the rumored aluminum frame. Also, GMPT is already on-record that the higher performance Gen 4 will have 500hp. If you take that number, divide it by the current LS6's specific output (1.17) you come up with 427 cuin. Think Chevy marketing would sell their Moms into prostitution to bring back the "427 Vette"? Plus, GM already has a 427 Gen3 block and Gen4 blocks are based on Gen 3 architecture.

I think the rumor of this engine being a 6.3L or a 6.4 is a red herring and the Z06 engine will actually be a 24-valve 427.

Ok...427 with 500hp. Weight around 2900lbs which is 500 lbs less than both Viper and Ford GT and a whopping 800 lbs less than an old ZR-1.

You guys tell me what's going to happen?
 
Hey, it all sounds like Corvette is heading in the right direction!
 
Spoke to a GM source this past weekend, looks like the next ZO6 is gonna be at 485 hp.
 
Hib Halverson said:
I don't care what the spin is from GM or what kind of BS rumors all the freaking Internet experts are making-up.

C6 is an evolutionary car based on C5.


Why?
Well, for one thing, the basic C5 structure and suspension are very sound designs. It's a great basis for a major update and a whole new car is not needed. Also, C6 is coming after only 8 model years of C5 whereas C4 ran 12 and C3 ran 13 MYs. Again, a whole new car is not needed.

The base C6 Targa and Convertible will use a structure--perimeter frame and closed structural tunnel--similar to C5. They will also use a suspension and powertrain that is similar in layout. Wheel base is a bit longer but overall length is said to be a bit shorter.

Is evolutionary a bad thing?

Hell No!
The base engine will be a 366 cuin Gen 4 V8 of about 400hp (many say it's 405). The Gen 4 will introduce Displacement on Demand and variable cam phasing. It's unknown if the base engine will also have the much-discussed three-valve heads. My guess is the Targa's weight will somewhere between where the C5 base and Z06 are. I suspect that '05 base car will just about equal the performance of today's Z06.

As for the '06 Coupe (Z06), my guess is that's where we'll see the rumored aluminum frame. Also, GMPT is already on-record that the higher performance Gen 4 will have 500hp. If you take that number, divide it by the current LS6's specific output (1.17) you come up with 427 cuin. Think Chevy marketing would sell their Moms into prostitution to bring back the "427 Vette"? Plus, GM already has a 427 Gen3 block and Gen4 blocks are based on Gen 3 architecture.

I think the rumor of this engine being a 6.3L or a 6.4 is a red herring and the Z06 engine will actually be a 24-valve 427.

Ok...427 with 500hp. Weight around 2900lbs which is 500 lbs less than both Viper and Ford GT and a whopping 800 lbs less than an old ZR-1.

You guys tell me what's going to happen?

Way to Hib! Congrats on setting the record on this...

Its much appreciated!

JB
 
c4c5specialist said:
Hi there,
Document ID 4518932, for complete diagnostic dimensions, and datum line measurements.
I dont hear, I rely on fact.
Allthebest, c4c5:hb

Will you please re-produce that document here for all to see? and/or post a link to it? Im sure all here would love to view it.
 
Brett said:
ZR-1's weigh 3500 pounds.
Brett

Actually, the ZR-1's curb weight was:
3465 90-92
3503 93
3512 94-95

Admittedly, my math was f'ed up. I should have said:
"Weight around 2900lbs which is about 500 lbs less than both Viper and Ford GT and a whopping 600 lbs less than an old ZR-1."

I apologize for posting incorrect information.
 
Hib,

Your efforts to inform the internet community is something many of us truly appreciate!



JB
 
I never meant to imply I didn't appreciate what was written. Nor was I trying to be a smart ass, or show anyone up. I thought 200 pounds was significant enough to say something. Sorry if you find that to be trivial.

Let's take it easy folks. Long, controlled breaths.....:eyerole



Brett
 
Hey Hib,

I also think Chevy will put a " 427 " in the C6-Z06.

Less stress with 7 liters vs. 6.3 to make 500 HP.

PLUS.... the " 427's " history!!!

Off subject, have you gotten your Z06 yet?
 
Brett said:
I never meant to imply I didn't appreciate what was written. Nor was I trying to be a smart ass, or show anyone up. I thought 200 pounds was significant enough to say something. Sorry if you find that to be trivial.

Let's take it easy folks. Long, controlled breaths.....:eyerole
Brett

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I should know better than to do hasty math in my head. I appreciate Brett's taking notice of my mistake. I don't have any problem with that. I've someone else on this thread did, I was not aware of it.

trumperZ06 said:
Off subject, have you gotten your Z06 yet?

Not yet but...the "deal" is in the negociation stage. I suspect it will still be a few weeks before I'll know.
 

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