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Grease spot on my shale top

Senator75

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Hey everyone...I'm new here, and I'm admitting it.

I picked up my C5 a couple of weeks ago, and have only driven it twice (out of town...and this is turning out to be the wettest July on record since 1975!). Anyway, last night I noticed a grease/oily spot on the shale convertible top, on the very back edge, right in the center. Has anyone else had the same problem?

More importantly, can anyone make any suggestions on what I should do to try to clean it? I plan to take the car back to the dealer for the "post purchase nitpicks," but I would like to try to take care of the spot in the interim.

Thanks,
Sen
 
Senator75,

Welcome to the CAC! I hope you like it here- there's lot of useful advice, and I'm sure folks who have experienced convertible top cleaning issues will be along to give you some sage advice on how to get the spot out.

-Patrick
 
Howdy,
This spot is fairly common but it is mostly caused by not raising and lowering the top as it should be. Why?

The toneau and trunk springs criss-cross the car right under the forward edge of the trunk and they are oiled or greased. Start by wiping the excess oil/grease off. Next, when lowering the top, always lower the rear of the top first then follow with the rest of the top. When raising the top, pull out the front first then lift the rear. This ensures that the top does not rub on the bottom of the cross member and those oiled places.

Also, get some RaggTopp cleaner to clean the top. It's good stuff.

Hope this helps
 
How-To Detail Convertible Tops
Author: David Bynon
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CONVERTIBLE TOPS

"Unlike a coupe or sedan, the roadster has special requirements."



The modern roadster is a masterpiece of beauty, performance, and superior engineering. We own these wonderful machines because they warm our soul. Like you, my blood stirs each time I twist the key and the engine comes to life. Top down, sun on my back, wind in my face, eating up the road... could anything be better?

Unlike coupes or sedans, roadsters and convertibles have special requirements. Where the roadster or convertible’s fully enclosed brethren sport steel and glass, the topless car has canvas and vinyl. This simple difference creates a myriad of challenges for the soft-top owner.
SOFT-TOP MATERIALS
The first thing to understand about your soft-top is its materials. Without this understanding, it's hard to appreciate the maintenance requirements.
Most modern convertibles and roadsters have soft-tops made of a durable polyacrylic/polyester canvas or vinyl. The fabric-like canvas tops feel nice and look great, whereas the vinyl tops are more economical and easier to maintain. Fabric tops have a tight weave, but they breathe. Unlike vinyl tops, a canvas top is not waterproof, it is only water-resistant. To make the canvas top waterproof it must be treated. Without protection, the canvas top is susceptible to leaking and stains. Likewise, vinyl tops need protection from the sun and pollutants. If you're not sure if your top is fabric or vinyl, check with your dealer or the manufacturer.
The rear window on your soft-top is special, too. Many soft-top cars have rear windows made of a clear vinyl. This allows the window to fold. These clear vinyl rear windows will absorb a wide range of gasses and liquids, including water, acids and hydrocarbons. Because it has the ability to absorb foreign materials, it will yellow over time if it is not properly maintained. Most often, the yellowing and discoloration is a result of ultraviolet (UV) light crosslinking. The vinyl is not directly affected by the sun’s UV rays, but what it absorbs can be.

HARMFUL AGENTS
Common cleaning products can be very harmful to your soft-top. Chemicals you should not use on or near your top include: ammonia, bleach, detergent, alcohol and vinegar.

Detergents, bleach and harsh acids will quickly deteriorate canvas, whereas ammonia and alcohol will dry and cloud vinyl. Take my word for it, you don’t want to know what it will cost to replace your soft-top. It makes for a really, really bad day. So please, know the chemicals you use before you apply them to your top.

CLEANING YOUR SOFT-TOP
Your car's soft-top is subjected to the same environmental conditions as the rest of your car. However, where it is easy to see when your car's body is dusty and dirty, it is not always easy to see when your top is dirty, especially if it’s black or navy blue.



Fabric tops, such as the top on this Porsche Boxster, should be washed using a soft brush and a soap that does not contain detergents or conditioners. If the top is properly protected and conditioned, the water will bead.
One of the biggest factors in top wear on canvas tops is dust in the canvas. Dust settles into the weave of the fabric and begins to act like sandpaper. Vinyl tops will also experience premature wear from dirt, but not as readily. In general, you should care for your top each time you wash your car. This does not mean you need to scrub it each time, but a good stiff rinsing is necessary. The following steps are recommended:

1. Wash your soft-top at least once a month (or when it is dusty or dirty) with a non-detergent based auto shampoo. If your top is not dirty, rinse it thoroughly with plenty of cool water. Make sure the shampoo you use does not contain gloss-enhancing oils. If the shampoo contains oils, the top will absorb the oil and become a dust magnet. The Porsche Tequipment Convertible Top Cleaner is an excellent choice for fabric tops.

2. The recommended tool for washing is a soft scrub brush. Do not use a cloth, chenille covered sponge, or lamb's wool mitt, as they will leave lint. If your top has soil marks, stains, or bird droppings, use a small, stiff, natural fiber scrub brush. If you can rub the brush across the back of your hand without scratching your skin, it’s safe to use on your soft-top. Do not use a scrub brush on the vinyl window. It will scratch. Make sure you rinse the top thoroughly with a stiff stream of water to remove all of the shampoo and dirt.

3. On fabric tops, blot dry using waffle weave drying towel. The best method is to use the towel to blot up the water. Don't wipe. Do not use a terrycloth towel or diaper to dry your canvas top, they will leave lint. On vinyl tops, a synthetic chamois or microfiber towel also work well, as do cotton towels. On vinyl windows, quality microfiber towels seem to work best.

SOFT-TOP STAINS
Sooner or later, your top will be inflicted with a stain that will not come out with regular shampoo. Common stains will include bird droppings, tree sap, and grease. For these occasions, you will need to use a stronger cleaner that can penetrate and release the foreign matter.

Your first inclination will be to scrub the stain with the regular shampoo. DON’T! All you will do is spread it around. To remove stains from your canvas or vinyl top, use a fabric cleaner or cleaner made for fabric soft tops. Liberally wet and scrub the stain with cleaner before washing the whole top. Let it soak in, but don’t let it dry. After it has soaked for 3-5 minutes, rinse your top and wash as normal. Rinse the stained area with a stiff stream of water.

PROTECTING YOUR SOFT-TOP
As mentioned earlier, canvas tops are not waterproof. To make it waterproof and stain resistant, it is necessary to treat it with a protective spray. The only recommended product is RaggTopp.
Although not necessary for waterproofing, vinyl tops also need protection. Using a good vinyl top protectant, you can prevent discoloration damage from road grime, pollution, salt deposits, leaf gum and bird droppings. Make sure you use a vinyl protectant that offers strong UV protection from the sun.

Before spraying your soft-top with protectant, it must be clean and dry. Use a scrub brush and a full .75 ounce dose of top or car shampoo to deep clean the top. Using the canvas top protectant is best done in conjunction with waxing. Your pre-wax cleaner or polish will remove any potential over-spray.
Canvas Top Protectant Instructions
1. Mask completely around your top and vinyl window with newspaper. Once dry, the over-spray from the protectant is difficult to remove from paint, vinyl and glass. Lift the top slightly and slip newspaper between the top and windshield frame. Do the same between the top and side windows. Use masking tape and newspaper to mask the areas where the top and rear panels meet. Use masking tape and newspaper again to completely mask the rear window (do not leave any vinyl showing).

2. Shake the Top Protectant for 30 to 60 seconds.

3. Spray two light coats from about 7 to 9 inches on the whole top. Start in the center on one side and work towards you in even, back and forth sprays, releasing your finger at the end of each pass. Repeat on the other side. Spray a third light coat on the seams.

4. Remove masking materials.

5. Check for over-spray on paint. Remove over-spray with pre-wax cleaner or polish.
Vinyl Top Protectant Instructions
1. Shake the Top Protectant for a few seconds.

2. Do not spray directly to the top. Spray or pour the protectant on a foam applicator or sponge and use the applicator to apply the protectant to your top. Start in the center on one side and work towards you in even, back and forth wipes. Repeat on the other side.

4. Allow the protectant to soak in for 3-5 minutes, then buff dry with a clean microfiber towel or terry cloth detailing towel.

OTHER TIPS & HINTS
Proper care of your soft-top goes beyond regular maintenance. You can also extend its life and beauty by providing a little extra care when lowering and raising your top.

While the engineers have done a wonderful job designing a top that folds into a small space, canvas and vinyl tops do not always fold flat. It is best to lower the top half way, then smooth the canvas or vinyl to ensure it does not bunch, gather, or buckle.


SUMMARY
Your soft-top can provide many years of beautiful service, but only if you provide it the proper care and handling. Keep your top clean and protect it as needed. When water stops beading on your canvas top, its protection from the sun and water are gone. Vinyl tops need more frequent protection; as often as once a month.
 
Just a word of caution. I sometimes have grease drop off of the chain on my door opener and it hits the top of my coupe. I would be upset if I had a vert.

You may want to wipe off any excess grease up above your car.
 

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