Thanks for the answer, I replaced 8 of "velcro" fasteners that were somethat broken on the hardtop. The replacement fasteners looked just like the ones on the new headliner, The fasteners on the new headliner due not hold at all when pressed into either the old or the new fasteners on the hard top. Years ago I used the spongy two sided adhesive tape on the old headliner, but it proved to be a regular maintance problem trying to make it hold. Eventually the old headliner worped and shrunk so bad that I just gave up and didn't use the hardtop for several years, but when I saw the new liners in the ecklers catalog, I called and talked to them, They convinced me that the new liner was far superior to the original units, which I believe it is once I figure out how to hold it in, so I started the whole rebuild process; paint, gaskets, seals, stainless, etc. so now if I get the headliner to permently hold, I'll have a new unit. Thanks Tom