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K&N Air Filters!!!

kingman

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This is for a Lt1 1996

Are they really worth their salt or is just a sales ploy??
Also they try to sell you a cover for the filter and a lube to make the filter air tight.

What do you think!

Thanks

Alan
 
kingman -- Are they really worth their salt or is just a sales ploy??

They are proven to flow more air than a stock air filter.
Combine that with that fact that they are reusable... you will never have to buy another air filter.

:D :D :D

JASON *** BRAND NEW MAGNECOR WIRES FOR SALE!!! *** 1979 L-82
 
I noticed some improvement in throttle response after putting mine in. We have results of the mod on the L98, not anything definitive on the LT1.
 
I too have been tempted to go with the K&N airfilter.

Have many on the CAC switched to it or is everyone just using the stockfilter?
 
K&N Rocks

Defininetly Change the filter,I did on my 86 L98 also cut open the air box to Really let it flow- my .02



Jamm'in Jeff
 
Guess I will go ahead with the K&N airfilter then.

My local MS Gulf Coast Vette Club has been a real help on where to find best deals on Mobil1 synthetic oil and even got me in touch with a local Gulf Coast Corvette Repair shop.

Hey Jeff,
How is life down near Tampa, FL??
Parrothead eh? Drop by my website:
http://www.rainontheinternet.com/rnr/

We are a regional parrothead band. Just played a huge phlocking in Orange Beach, AL with Fingers Taylor and several others as well as a local Pascagoula "Poker" Run last weekend. Back after mardi gras we passed thru your neck of the woods for some shows down in Islamorada, FL. (had to find warmer and dryer climates!) haha

Good to know there are other vette driving Parrotheads out there.
Take care
Rain
 
Paper filters are made from compressed fibers. The spaces between these fibers provide microscopic holes the air must pass through. One by one, these holes become plugged with dirt and dust particles. Once a hole becomes plugged, the air must find an alternate route through the medium. This process is known as surface loading. As the surface of the filter collects more dirt, its resistance to air flow increases because there are fewer and fewer holes left open and as restriction goes up, horsepower and fuel economy go down.

To meet minimum filtration standards, the paper must be thick and/or the fibers must be tightly compressed and dense. Therefore paper elements that provide adequate filtration are restrictive to air flow by design. Any paper element that could flow as much air as an equivalent K&N would not provide safe filtration. Additionally, as a paper filter becomes more and more clogged, the pressure inside the filter drops while the atmospheric air pressure (approximately 14.7 psi at sea level) outside the filter remains the same. It’s like using your lungs to draw the air out of a plastic milk bottle. When the pressure differential becomes too great, the bottle will collapse. The same thing could happen to your paper filter, although it is unlikely. What can happen could be just as severe. An excessively high pressure differential created by a restricted filter can literally pull dirt particles through the paper medium. In other words, the performance of a paper filter, i.e. air flow through the filter and its ability to protect your engine, DECREASES near the end of its service interval.
The K&N air filter is somewhat more complex. The unique design features multiple layers of oiled cotton fabric which captures the airborn dirt particles. These dirt particles cling to the fibers of the filter and actually become part of the filtering media. This process, known as depth loading, allows the K&N air filter to retain many times more dirt per square inch than a paper filter. The cotton fabric is sandwiched between pleated aluminum screen. Pleating increases surface area which in turn promotes additional air flow and prolongs service intervals. Pleating exposes five times the surface area compared to a flat element like foam.

The dirt particles collected on the surface of a K&N element have very little effect on air flow because there are no small holes to clog. Particles are stopped by layers of crisscrossed cotton fibers and held in suspension by the oil. As the filter begins to collect debris, an additional form of filter action begins to take place because air must first pass through the dirt particles trapped on the surface. That means the filtration efficiency of a K&N element actually increase as the filter collects dirt. Tests have shown a K&N E-1500 filter will flow 60 percent of its maximum flow capacity after 50,000 miles of street use. And, considering a new K&N flows at least 50% more than a comparable paper element, that same filter will provide all of the air the engine needs even after 50,000 miles.

Conversely, dirt trapped by a paper element will impregnate the fibers, which will impede air flow at a proportional rate. In other words, performance decreases dramatically as a paper element gets dirty. At the service interval, say 14,000 miles, air flow through a paper element can decrease as much as 70 percent.
The efficiency of K&N’s oiled cotton gauze medium has been proven time and time again. The condition of the filter can be monitored with a vacuum gauge. The vacuum reading increases as the filter nears its service interval. A high vacuum reading means the filter is dirty and needs to be serviced.

Stock Replacement Filters

For the service-minded consumer, utilizing the stock air filtration system is easiest so we manufacture exact replacement air filter elements to fit in place of the factory filter. Dimensions are held to minimum acceptable tolerances to insure a perfect fit inside the stock air box. Molded rubber sealing surfaces, edges and/or end caps combined with our unique pleated cotton gauze medium creates a filter that is so durable we warrant it for ONE MILLION MILES or 10 years. And, K&N original equipment replacement filters are emissions legal in all 50 states.

Street engines are exposed to the same risks as racing engines but for a longer period of time. In this application, a permanent, high performance air filtration system must be durable enough to last the lifetime of the vehicle as it travels through any and all driving conditions.

Getting back to air flow for a moment, we have discussed stock air filtration systems and why they compromise air flow. We have also explained how K&N’s unique design is less restrictive compared to a paper element. Installing a K&N Filtercharger in place of the original equipment or aftermarket paper filter removes the restriction which then allows the engine to inhale all of the air it can physically use. Increasing the amount of air available to the engine promotes performance since oxygen in the air is a necessary ingredient for combustion. If you have a computer controlled fuel injected car, the computer will automatically add the right amount of fuel to compensate for the additional air. If your engine is carbureted, more often than not, no adjustment will be necessary. However, for competitive motorsport, it may be necessary to re-calibrate the carburetor to achieve optimum performance.

The amount of performance gain varies from vehicle to vehicle. A small displacement four cylinder engine may only realize a two or three horsepower gain while it isn’t uncommon for a 350 cubic inch V-8 to gain 10 horsepower or more. The greater the restriction created by the stock paper element, the greater the performance gain when you switch to a K&N filter.

:D :D :D

JASON *** BRAND NEW K&N FILTERS FOR SALE!!! *** 1979 L-82
 
Last month I posted the same question.
From all the replies I went with the stock filter.

K&N $60
Stock $17

Ya sure never have to buy another filter again, blah, blah, blah. No one with the LT1 has said it helped them any and many of them did before/after 1/4 mile runs. The issue with the Vette is the angle of the air intake and how limited flow is no matter what you do. I have a K&N in my truck and it helps a little but I use that truck all the time so to be able to clean it makes it worth while. The Vette might get 5k miles a year average so the paper filter should last 10 years no problem. So in 10 years I will buy another paper one for $17. By the end of 20 years and 100k miles driven (on avg) I spent $34 on air filters. Go with K&N, spend $60 + $15 recharge kit you are up to $75 for imperceivable gains ??

But it is up to how you drive. Live in warm weather area the K&N will likely pay for its self much sooner.
 
K&N Oil Filter is nice for us 'do it yourselfers', but the air filter is
expensive bs....yea...let's all 'oil up' our Tb's....
:L :L
 
filters

I`m sure that paper filter will be real nice after 10 yrs,with that rational you won`t have to change many things at all in 10 yrs.Think of all the money you can save!
 
Installing Problem's

Hi

It seems that for some reason the K&N filter does not fit exactly in a 96, and has to be played with inorder to fit.

As far as l'm concerned, if it doesn't fit, pass!

Is there another filter that l can try, l'm not looking for the ? horsepower advantage, just want the engine to breathe.

Thanks
 
Corvette-Pilot said:
Last month I posted the same question.
From all the replies I went with the stock filter.

K&N $60
Stock $17

Ya sure never have to buy another filter again, blah, blah, blah. No one with the LT1 has said it helped them any and many of them did before/after 1/4 mile runs. The issue with the Vette is the angle of the air intake and how limited flow is no matter what you do. I have a K&N in my truck and it helps a little but I use that truck all the time so to be able to clean it makes it worth while. The Vette might get 5k miles a year average so the paper filter should last 10 years no problem. So in 10 years I will buy another paper one for $17. By the end of 20 years and 100k miles driven (on avg) I spent $34 on air filters. Go with K&N, spend $60 + $15 recharge kit you are up to $75 for imperceivable gains ??
...

The angle of the filter does not matter. The one thing that limits the gains of K&N on Corvettes is the size of the filter. I have not seen a K&N/Stock comparison test with a factory filter housing. Every test I have seen is with the open lid. With a factory lid, I would bet on gains without a doubt. The open lid utilizes all of the surface area of the filter, which is way bigger than the engine would ever need, which is why there isn't much difference between the two filters.

The one thing you are forgetting is the filter is removable... one filter is good for every C4 you buy.
 
I'm a K&N user. All of my cars have one. IMHO there isn't much difference between a K&N and a new paper filter. However, there is a big difference after only a few thousand miles - the K&N is still flowing as much air as a new paper filter while an old paper filter is getting plugged and chocking the motor.

I'm using an open top air box on my 92 and a Z06 air box on the 03. Both of those improve the air flow to the filter. After that, I don't want the filter causing the restriction.

I have not noticed any oil problems in the throttle body. K&N puts just enough oil on the gauze to turn it red all over and that's enough. K&N provides instructions that advise against over oiling the filter after cleaning. Basically, if the filter drips, you've over oiled it.
 
I put a K&N filter, 52mm throttle body, and a new exhaust.
BIG difference. Not sure what had the most effect, but it's real easy to smoke the tires now.
 
A K&N Filter has always been the first thing I do to any vehicle I own... Like someone else said, they are good on any vehicle you own, PLUS, I bought one for my Dodge, used it/cleaned it for 3 years, and sold it (cold air kit) for the same amount I bought it for 3 years earlier... try that with a paper filter :)

You might not get the "gains" you are hoping for when getting a K&N, but, it flows better, is supposed to be better for mileage, and outlives any other filter...

Jeff
 
I personally don't buy them....they do not give any power gain over a FRAM paper filter....we extensively dynoed this issue on LS.com in 1998 on the LS F-Bodies and a recent filter test to be found on www.bobistheoilguy.com showed too that K&Ns are not gaining any power...now for the bad part.....the oil on K&Ns migrates from the filter panel onto the MAF wires and contaminates them, so be prepared to clean your MAF wires if you run a K&N............I'd rather put a new paper element in there every 10,000 miles or son and be done with it......
 
Very interesting stuff here, I bought a paper one because I didn't have the money for the K&N. But I was thinking about getting it in May, Do you guys modify the filter box cover or replace it with a different kind? Mine is an 86.--thanks.
 
HeySpike -
You can modify the air filter cover if you want to, but you don't have to. You can use a K&N air filter with a stock housing if you wish to. I have a K&N air filter in my car and I also have an open lid. Not wanting to modify the factory/original housing, I overpaid for a cut lid through Corvette Central ($50.00).

I don't have a MAF with those delicate wires to be concerned about. I have also removed and examined the air intake duct that runs from the air filter housing to the TB - no oil residue inside at this time. It may be true that the oil is pulled from the filter into unwanted areas of the motor, but I have not experienced that as of yet.
 
Alex D said:
I personally don't buy them....they do not give any power gain over a FRAM paper filter....we extensively dynoed this issue on LS.com in 1998 on the LS F-Bodies and a recent filter test to be found on www.bobistheoilguy.com showed too that K&Ns are not gaining any power...now for the bad part.....the oil on K&Ns migrates from the filter panel onto the MAF wires and contaminates them, so be prepared to clean your MAF wires if you run a K&N............I'd rather put a new paper element in there every 10,000 miles or son and be done with it......


Great post! :_rock
 
K&N filters wont show much of a power increase on the dyno, just like a ram air setup, while the car is stationary, even with the fan blowing air into the front as it sits on he dyno.

My 95 picked up some response in the mid to higher RPM ranges with the K&N filter, and a good tenth in the 1/4. It opens the door for other mods to work up to their potential.
 

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