bill-c, and dave-f, thanks for your time and imput iam pulling it apart this weekend. i was told from several people that the tie rod ends good be giveing me the wobles. i dont have the z71 sus. dave. with the weels off i dont get any play in the hub at all. also i dont get any buy pushing in or pulling out on hub. just side to side and up and down. would the universals in half shafts have any thing to do with this too? thanks again guys.