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Obsolete OnStar in the C6

knucklexyz

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I wanted to add OnStar service to my Verizon account as advertised on the OnStar and Verizon sites. No can do - the C6 has the analog - not the newer digital - version of OnStar. Reproduced below is the e-mail correspondence I've had with OnStar. The bottom line is that our 2005 Corvettes have an obsolete version of OnStar and the only remedy is to shell out even more money. We've been deceived in my opinion and OnStar and GM should be made aware that we are not happy about it. If you agree, take a few moments to let OnStar know of your displeasure (their email address is below).

My email:

I was interested in adding OnStar minutes to my Verizon calling plan and called OnStar to confirm that my car has the digital version of OnStar. Much to my surprise, and more to my disappointment, I was told that my 2005 Corvette has the analog version of OnStar. The Corvette is among the most expensive cars that GM sells as well as among the most technologically advanced. To say that I am disappointed that my new Corvette, for which I paid over fifty thousand dollars, has an OnStar system that is no more advanced than that offered five years ago and, worse, that the system will not even be functional before long, is an extreme understatement. In effect, me and every other buyer of a new Corvette with OnStar has been duped and cheated. Why is there no mention in the literature on the Corvette that it has a long-outdated obsolete OnStar system and that it will soon be unsupported and unusable? I can assure you that I wouldn't have purchased the OnStar option and I can also assure you that the service will not be renewed beyond that period that I already paid for when I purchased the car.

The OnStar response:

Dear Mr. Stanford,

Thank you for taking the time to e-mail OnStar.

Recently, the U.S. Federal Communications Commission (FCC) ruled that wireless carriers will no longer be required to support the analog wireless network after February 16, 2008. After that, if the carriers for OnStar elect to provide only digital service, beginning February 16, 2008, OnStar service will only be available through dual-mode (analog/digital) hardware. As of June 2003, all OnStar systems utilize analog-only hardware. From the beginning, OnStar has relied on a nationwide analog wireless network to provide communication to and from OnStar-equipped vehicles. Today, the analog network continues to provide the most extensive coverage across the U.S. and Canada. However, the U.S. wireless carriers have begun to shift from analog to digital networks and so will OnStar.

The FCC ruling states that wireless carriers are required to support the analog wireless network only until February 16, 2008. After that, if the carriers for OnStar elect to provide only digital service, OnStar service will only be available through dual-mode (analog/digital) hardware. Still, five years is a long time, so it is difficult to know for certain what level of analog service carriers will offer, if any, after February 16, 2008. Rest assured that OnStar will continue to monitor analog coverage throughout the five-year transition period and provide updates as they become available.

All GM vehicles equipped with analog/digital-ready hardware will be eligible for an upgrade to digital equipment. However, the timing of upgrade availability will vary, depending on model year and specific vehicle type. Vehicles with analog-only hardware are ineligible for digital hardware upgrades.

Digital upgrade kits are now available for some GM vehicles. Upgrades for these vehicles will be provided to OnStar subscribers with the purchase of a non-refundable, 3-year OnStar subscription. The digital hardware upgrade program is currently limited to U.S. subscribers only. Canadian subscribers will be contacted prior to January 1, 2008. To check if digital upgrade kits are available for your vehicle, arrange for an upgrade, or obtain more information on digital hardware upgrades, please contact your local GM dealership.

To determine the hardware type of your vehicle, please press the White Dot button in the vehicle. If the system responds "READY", then your hardware is analog-only. If the system responds "ONSTAR READY", then your hardware is analog/digital-ready.

If you have any other concerns, please feel free to contact the OnStar Customer Care Department at 1-888-4ONSTAR (1-888-466-7827), prompt 4, between the hours of 6am and 1am EST.

Sincerely,

Krista
OnStar Information Specialist


My response:

Dear Krista,

None of this was explained, mentioned, alluded to, or even hinted at when I purchased my car. You write that "five years is a long time" but, in fact, the OnStar system in my new Corvette will be obsolete in less than three years unless, of course, I pay for a NON-REFUNDABLE 3 year subscription. In other words, I'm stuck with an obsolete system unless I pay even more than the $55,000 I already paid for the Corvette that I bought with what I thought was an OnStar system that would last at least as long as the payments!

To not make it plain in selling the OnStar system that, in fact, it will be obsolete in three years (unless you pay more than you already have) is misleading and deceptive.

L. R. Stanford
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Wow, I knew there was going to be bugs to work out but an outright rip off like this is weird. I wonder if GM is obligated to do anything for you warrenty wise. Did you contact GM customer care? I would e-mail them with this information to see what there response is.
 
Thanks so much for sharing this information. This is very discouraging to say the least, I paid for OnStar in my wife's brand new car last year. GM really needs to be upfront with this info.
 
HI there,
You will have Onstar, Generation 6, in your Corvette.

If you hit the white button, and you will hear "Onstar Ready."

This shows that your Onstar is digital equipped. This test is for ANY GM vehicle equipped with the Onstar system.

What does your Onstar say when you hit the white button?????
Allthebest, c4c5
 
Man I am glad I read this thread. My new 05 Yukon is Analog/Digital equipped. That is better than being strictly Analog. I agree with you about not being upfront either. GM knows about this and should have said something. I wonder how much the Non-Refundable amount is going to be?:mad
 
I like the On-Star my C3 came with--hit the black button and say "Break one nine"...
 
I have the OnStar phone option with my '04 Trailblazer. The system works great, except if you voice dial, (you know, say the number, ie: 1800..) the system will not or has one heck of a time reconizing the word "two". I called OnStar about this and they know it's a glitch in the system. They advised me instead of saying "two", to try "Do" or some other word that rhymes with two. This really bites because most of the phone numbers I use have the number 2 in them.
 
Chrisr said:
I have the OnStar phone option with my '04 Trailblazer. The system works great, except if you voice dial, (you know, say the number, ie: 1800..) the system will not or has one heck of a time reconizing the word "two". I called OnStar about this and they know it's a glitch in the system. They advised me instead of saying "two", to try "Do" or some other word that rhymes with two. This really bites because most of the phone numbers I use have the number 2 in them.

The area code here is 910. Everytime I try to voice dial it keeps calling 911. :L
 
photovette said:
I like the On-Star my C3 came with--hit the black button and say "Break one nine"...

:D ;LOL :D
 
Does anybody know if this OnStar version change will have an effect on the other features that OnStar provides, like the automatic notification upon air bag deployment, or road side assistance etc?
Tim
 
I just checked mine and it replied "OnStar ready". Maybe the person from Verizon doesn't know what he's talking about.
 
korvettekarl said:
I just checked mine and it replied "OnStar ready". Maybe the person from Verizon doesn't know what he's talking about.

Ditto :D
 
I just oredered my C6 without OnStar..........why do you need it, heck everyone on the planet has a cell phone and besides............that means big brother can always know where you are at anytime, and of course mainly because I'm to cheep to pay 700 bucks for something I'll probably never use..........
just my 2 cents
 
My daily driver (not the Vette in these parts) came standard with OnStar and 1 year service. I never use it and have no plans in the future. They don't work where Verizon doesn't work and believe it or not in the middle of civilization that is metro-Boston there are a huge amount of dead spots. I also have a keyless entry sytem and the doors won't lock if the key is left in the car. I can't figure out what OnStar is good for except the "Valet "service makes restaurant reservations. I think I can handle that task quite well the old fashion way!
 
c4c5specialist said:
HI there,
You will have Onstar, Generation 6, in your Corvette.

If you hit the white button, and you will hear "Onstar Ready."

This shows that your Onstar is digital equipped. This test is for ANY GM vehicle equipped with the Onstar system.

What does your Onstar say when you hit the white button?????
Allthebest, c4c5

I believe that that is incorrect and this is supported by the e-mail message I posted from the OnStar representative. The "Onstar Ready" response, according to OnStar, means that the system is "digital ready" - i.e., it can be upgraded to digital service. This was also what I was told when I called OnStar and spoke with a representative.
 
c4c5specialist said:
HI there,
Then that would not be a problem of the Onstar system, only the cellular carrier.
Allthebest, c4c5

Not at all. If that were the case, then the '04 and '05 pickups, which have the lastest system would also require an upgrade, and they don't.
 
Its not that I'm getting older, which I am, as I am substantially electronic gizmoed out. But there does comes a time when a device begs the question, why? Why OnStar, what is it really for?
 

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