News: Oil pan deal

[Marv02]

When building my new 383 Motor I need to buy a new Oil Pan I wanted a 8 Qt Canton oil pan but Pircey very Pricey.
I found this Copy cat Knock off pan for Half the price.
So far I have about 2000 miles on it dont leak fit good so this why I passing the deal on.
Whom ever looking to buy a replacment or building a new motor.
Why pay $399.00 for a Canton I know they most likley thicker metal and better made but for a DD you can beat the deal.
SBC CHEVY CHAMP STYLE OIL PAN 8 QT + TUBE 86+ 1 PC | eBay

 

[Hib Halverson]

I have no idea if this cheap knock off is as good as or worse than any other oil pan, but, let me offer two observations.

1) 2000 miles is too short a distance to judge such a product. Run it 25,000 miles then decide if it's leak free. Fabricated steel pans...if they are poor designs....will crack after being in service for a while.

2) The benchmarks by which to judge an aftermarket oil pan are many more than just leak-free for a short distance.

The main reason to use a giant oil pan like that is: oil control when the engine is at high rpm and the car is generating high lateral acceleration in turns or high acceleration or deceleration in a straight line.

Based on your testing that oil pan's ability to perform on the track, why should I buy it?

Also, can you compare and contrast the materials used in the KMJ and the Canton oil pans? Is the steel the same thickness? What about the quality of the welding?

Again, I have no information on either of the oil pan brands, but I can tell you that key criteria on which to judge an oil pan were not addressed in this thread and there are no free lunches in aftermarket performance parts. The only way someone would build a pan for 100 bucks is to make some compromises somewhere in comparison to a $400 SBC Corvette road race oil pan.

 

[Marv02]

I never said I would use the pan for racing or any type of High reving type use just as a DD.

I using a Hi flow Oil; pump and what I understand you need a large oil sump so it will not run it self dry.

And yes it a stamped steel pan upper with the lowwer sump welded on.

On most DD cars you dont turn High RPM all day long every once in a while so for me I did not need a super duty type Oil pan.

The guy next door has Canton on his C4 and it LEAKS not because it high bucks dont mean it wont leak in on his 427 SBC.

I have a Kelvo 5 Qt pan also sitting in the corrner of the garage it looks like it built the same as my cheeper KLM pan stamped on top welded on bottom.

I just trying to give Other anouther way to go rather spending $400.00 on a oil pan.

I have no idea if this cheap knock off is as good as or worse than any other oil pan, but, let me offer two observations.

1) 2000 miles is too short a distance to judge such a product. Run it 25,000 miles then decide if it's leak free. Fabricated steel pans...if they are poor designs....will crack after being in service for a while.

2) The benchmarks by which to judge an aftermarket oil pan are many more than just leak-free for a short distance.

The main reason to use a giant oil pan like that is: oil control when the engine is at high rpm and the car is generating high lateral acceleration in turns or high acceleration or deceleration in a straight line.

Based on your testing that oil pan's ability to perform on the track, why should I buy it?

Also, can you compare and contrast the materials used in the KMJ and the Canton oil pans? Is the steel the same thickness? What about the quality of the welding?

Again, I have no information on either of the oil pan brands, but I can tell you that key criteria on which to judge an oil pan were not addressed in this thread and there are no free lunches in aftermarket performance parts. The only way someone would build a pan for 100 bucks is to make some compromises somewhere in comparison to a $400 SBC Corvette road race oil pan.

 

[catbert]

Made in China?

 

[Hib Halverson]

Now I'm really confused.
:ugh

You say...

I never said I would use the pan for racing or any type of High reving type use just as a DD.

So...why do you need anything more than the stock oil pan? If you don't race and you don't rev the engine, seems like a waste of time and money (even if it is only a hundred bucks) to change the pan.

Actually, the direction this thread has gone, ie: you use the car as a DD, never race, never rev the engine to high rpm, begs the question, why do most of the mods in your sig line?

 

[Marv02]

When you rebuild things yuou leave them stock I dont

It a TOY more oil more cooling better Lubrication heat kills motors I running a High flow not a high pressuer Oil pump for better Lubication.

I using a 8 Qt pan so the High Flow pump dont run the oil sump Dry like it would with a 5 Qt stock pan.

The car has 150000 miles on the clock it time for a new motor and trans mite as well put a motor with some power behide it the stock 220 H/P and 330 TQ come on it a Vett it should not be beat by a Toyota Camery.

The Vett end being for now my DD my wife drives my paid for SUV and our V-10 truck sits it a gas hog this is my next project going thought the V-10 Viper motor and the rest of the truck.

I am planning to drive the Vett as a DD for about a year before I get back into Car payments I wanted a break in car payments for a while.

If you going to rebuild a project DO IT right or you regret not doing in the first place.

Yes It would been a lot cheeper making the Vett Stock but what fun would that been and getting beat by a Camery is just not right it a Vett.

If you seen some other projects I have built in the past you understand if your going to build it build it.

It Not a race car just a fun street car when you get on it you know it will move.

Oh ya if your going to build it build it to last yes you pay more money up front but it willn't leave you walking home.

Now I'm really confused.
:ugh

You say...



So...why do you need anything more than the stock oil pan? If you don't race and you don't rev the engine, seems like a waste of time and money (even if it is only a hundred bucks) to change the pan.

Actually, the direction this thread has gone, ie: you use the car as a DD, never race, never rev the engine to high rpm, begs the question, why do most of the mods in your sig line?

 

[Marv02]

When you build anew motor do you leave it stock if was a Camery yes leave it stock my SUV leave it stock my Hand Built 1988 CR 500 stuffed in to a 2005 Honda CRF450 X frame no way even near stock Street Legal I build the bike from the ground up to give you a idea some things should be built others leave them stock.

It's Sold to build the Vett plus the old body said no more to much abuse over the years.

The Vett it a Toy 220 H/P just not enough in my eyes.

 

[93Rubie]

Haha, Marv02, I hear ya. I got a couple buddies that cannot leave well enough alone. He has a 95 Mustang DD, always tweaking stuff and adding this or that, never really races the car or anything just DD on the street. Stock is not good enough for him. Me on the other hand if it works good in stock form and I'm happy with it, no need to mess with it. To each their own. Let us know how the oil pan holds up.

 

[Marv02]

I very happy with the set up now and the power of the car.

So all those's mods are DONE YA ME.

Now just the odd ball stuff like the power side mirror switch needs a new one the lights in the doors need to be fixed the little stuff.

Like the guy down the street said Vetts you never done there always something you want to fix or improve on.

Haha, Marv02, I hear ya. I got a couple buddies that cannot leave well enough alone. He has a 95 Mustang DD, always tweaking stuff and adding this or that, never really races the car or anything just DD on the street. Stock is not good enough for him. Me on the other hand if it works good in stock form and I'm happy with it, no need to mess with it. To each their own. Let us know how the oil pan holds up.

 

[Marv02]

Okay if you ever had to pull the motor and rebuild the car would you leave it stock.
Or as long as it apart do some Mods to it.

Haha, Marv02, I hear ya. I got a couple buddies that cannot leave well enough alone. He has a 95 Mustang DD, always tweaking stuff and adding this or that, never really races the car or anything just DD on the street. Stock is not good enough for him. Me on the other hand if it works good in stock form and I'm happy with it, no need to mess with it. To each their own. Let us know how the oil pan holds up.