POR 15 vs. Otners

[winnipeg69]

I am looking to paint frame and undercar components and am leaning towards POR 15 which I have heard good things about. I noticed a similiar rust encapsulator product from Eastwood. Has anyone used it and if so how is it?? Would you revcommend it??


Eastwood Product

Thanks
Mike

 

[Mac]

Are you set on paint? I powdercoated my frame & painted suspension parts and I would recommend this process highly. The upfront cost is comparable to having your frame painted professionally although it can be a bit more depending on local provider. The chief advantages are that powdercoat outlasts paint and seals out rust. You see, I only wanted to do a body-off frame restoration once, so I picked powdercoat after investigating other rust inhibitive processes. Likewise, all my replacement lines are stainless.

That being said, if I were looking at paint by myself, POR-15 has an excellent reputation.

 

[paintdaddy]

Ive also heard good things about por15 but only had one experience with it and had no gripes.It doesnt clean up easy and has to wear off to get completely off your hands.I have heard complaints about the UV protectant in por15.It has none,it will turn chalky and it doesnt matter if its under the car or not.
I use alot of the encapsulator and have always been happy,the only thing it has to be topcoated.

 

[Bob Chadwick]

Mike,

I've doing my frame and whatever else that has the potential to rust with POR15. Comes out looking really good. As indicated it has to wear off the skin. Do yourself and favor and go to the drug store and buy yourself a box of those rubber gloves that the doctors and dentists use.

Bob

 

[lew]

Do yourself and favor and go to the drug store and buy yourself a box of those rubber gloves that the doctors and dentists use.

We do use latex rubber gloves quite a bit these days, but I don't know that I would recommend it for this application. Latex tends to disintegrate rather rapidly if it comes into contact with organic solvents. Vinyl might be a better choice.

Lew Fischer, M.D.

 

[Bob Chadwick]

We do use latex rubber gloves quite a bit these days, but I don't know that I would recommend it for this application. Latex tends to disintegrate rather rapidly if it comes into contact with organic solvents. Vinyl might be a better choice.

Lew Fischer, M.D.

Good observation Lew. I guess I get in and out of there so quick that I haven't seen a problem. Now the paint brush handle pocing through the glove and leaving your hand exposed is another issue, one that has left me with a gray palm for a week or more.

 

[lew]

I get in and out of there so quick that I haven't seen a problem.

Maybe that is why latex works so well for...but, no, we won't go there.

Lew

 

[Bob Chadwick]

Maybe that is why latex works so well for...but, no, we won't go there.

Lew

Bad Boy.

 

[lew]

Bad Boy.

Bob,

O.K., I'll be good. :cry

Lew

 

[XS650]

We do use latex rubber gloves quite a bit these days, but I don't know that I would recommend it for this application. Latex tends to disintegrate rather rapidly if it comes into contact with organic solvents. Vinyl might be a better choice.

Lew Fischer, M.D.

Every gearhead owes theirself a box of disposable Nitrile gloves. They are the same thickness as Latex gloves but a lot stronger and not damaged by most solvents. Nitrile is what a lot of O-rings and other seals are made from. They are usually a nice soothing blue color.

My source is: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=37052

 

[Red69]

winnipeg69, if you are looking for an alternative to POR 15, I would recommend PPG's epoxy primer. The paint number is:
DP 401 LF catalyst
DP 90 LF Epoxy Primer
The numbers are for black, but it also comes in colors. It comes in two one quart cans and is mixed in equal amounts of each. Price about $75 US. I find it becomes more glossy by using a little more catalyst and flatter with less. It adheres well to just about everything and cleans well with lacquer thinner and can be brushed or sprayed on. It can be used as a topcoat where a "suede" finished is desired, or topcoated with other paint. It can be painted over rusty metal that has had scale brushed off. I was told by an older body man I know that it was developed to retard rust on Chrysler cars. You can mix small amounts as needed for small parts. You mix what you will use in about 20 minutes. It dries to the touch in about 2 hours depending on conditions. I never used POR, so I can't make a comparison, but I am very satisfied with the PPG product. I painted the entire fiberglass underside and frame. I rust proofed the inside of my frame with a soft, black undercoating material. I sprayed it in using my air compressor and wand I made. I did this while it was on a rotisserie, so I could move the frame around to help fully coat the inside. Good luck with your project.

 

[paintdaddy]

Dp is only if your priming over clean metal,I wouldnt use it over rusty metal.It would be a waste of money.

 

[lbell101]

Chassis Saver is the same thing as POR but less money. I'm a little partial because I both use it and sell it. But there is no denying how good it is once you use it. PPGs DP epoxy (and our VP epoxy) is not a similar product.

Larry
www.larryscars.com

 

[toneron]

POR 15

I don't know anyone who has had a positive experience with POR 15.

I think it is terrible - and when I called to return it they were very rude.

Things I painted with it rusted through within 2 months.

 

[paintdaddy]

Ive heard of the chasis saver,does it hold up to UV better than Por 15?

 

[lbell101]

No, it is still UV sensitive. It doesn't have to be topcoated but it will turn gray if you don't and it's exposed to the sun.
I used it about 9 months ago on the complete underside of my 67 F100. I use it daily and it's still perfect.
Here's the info on it:
I hope I'm not violating any board rules by posting these URLs.
http://www.autopaintdirect.com/ch1.jpg
http://www.autopaintdirect.com/ch2.jpg

Larry

 

[paintdaddy]

Looks good,ill have to try that next time I need a gal.I dont think your violating any rules unless you constantly jamb it down our throats.