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daveintexas

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1974 454 Stingray
I recently acquired a 74 with the 454 in it.The motor was rebuilt, but all of the engine accessories arent installed on it.The radiator doesnt have a place for a cap.I have seen a couple of pics of BB cars that have a cap on a container on the fender, but the pics werent very clear. I need some info on what i need to fix this correctly.Can anybody explain why some cars have a radiator cap on the radiator and some dont?? Thanks in advance for any help you can give me!!
 
yes, it looks just like that radiator, except i dont have the tank.I guess i will have to get one.Why did they use that set-up as compared to just putting the cap on the radiator?Is there any advantage to having the surge tank? Thanks for the info!!
 
Dave,
Don't know if you know but an Assembly Manual will help you out immensely.
Pick one up off ebay or thru one of the other Corvette suppliers out there.
They are great for showing you what all is needed or what should be there.
Congrats on the BB!
 
GM used two different 'strategies' on Corvettes.

1953 to 1972 used a coolant system where an airspace was required to allow for expansion as the engine heated up. Most copper/brass radiator cars had an expansion cavity inside the radiator (69's were different) and you simply filled up the radiator through the cap opening to a certain level, leaving a few inches head room. There was no external expansion (surge) tank or overflow tank.

Most cars with aluminum radiators had no internal expansion tank or filler cap on the radiaitor. They relied instead upon an external remote expansion tank (surge tank) which had the filler cap. This tank is also to be filled only partially to prevent the famous coolant puke after shutdown.

1973 and newer Corvettes all had a copper/brass radiator with an intergral filler cap, but had no internal or external expansion tanks. The radiator was intended to filled to the brim. To allow for expansion, an overflow tank (usually plastic) was connected to the radiator filler neck with a small tube. As the coolant expanded, the excess would flow to the overflow tank for storage. Upon engine cool down, the excess would be 'sucked' back into the radiator keeping it 100% full at all times.

It sounds like someone has installed a pre-73 radiator on your car but did not complete the retrofit by adding an expansion tank. Your choices are to add a tank now, or upgrade the system to post-73 specs.
 
I don't know a blessed thing about C3s but C2 big blocks did not come with expansion tanks (the '65 396 and the L88 being exceptions). So, my guess is that you have a small block radiator which will be undersized for your application. If it were me, I would buy the correct radiator and sell what you have.

Just my .02
 
Thanks for all the great info Mikey!! It appears that somebody put a new radiator in the car, although its not the correct year one.It does appear big enough to be for a BB.There was a plastic overflow tank that came in a spare parts box, but no surge tank.So therfore, I believe that the radiator was changed out.The motor was rebuilt and I guess they decided to get a new radiator, but not the correct one for whatever reason.Thanks for all the help, and I believe the easiest way to go now, would just be to buy a surge tank and the brackets for it.Thanks again!!
 
My '73 L-82 has the radiator style w/cap on the top right corner. I agree with others, you have the wrong radiator. I was under the impression all C3's after '72 had no surge tank and had the plastic overflow tank under the right fender. Converting over to the surge style might make for a cleaner underhood look. I actually thought about doing that when I replaced my radiator two summers ago.

good luck with your project !
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lone73
Buda, Tx
 
its not the right radiator, but its a big radiator.It looks like it has the capacity to cool the BB.I think I will probably just get a surge tank.As you say, it will be a little cleaner looking, plus alot cheaper, since I just need the tank, instead of buying another radiator.Thanks for all the info! This car has been sitting in a friends garage for @ 15 yrs!! He bought the car, and decided to restore it.He bought all of the interior, but never put it in...after taking out all of the old stuff...lol. He had the car painted in 2000 and put it back in the garage again.So it has sat in his garage under a cover all this time.Its a numbers matching car with 66,000 miles on it!! Now I have the task of putting it all back together :)
 

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