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Rather than me doing this...
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...I thought I'd just tell you.

If you want to design and build your own C2, just order a bunch of repro parts. You'll be designing, modifying, adjusting, swearing and having "great" fun before you know it.

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Can you tell how happy I am with repro parts?
 
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Its not just corvette repro parts,There are some parts that are just PERFECT,but then you get the clinkers.I now try to replate,rebuild,restore,reuse anything I can before going to a repro part.

Ill share a story,As you know I manage a heating and A/C company.Well we have a full sheetmetal shop in house.My tin knocker was out this week due to a death in his family and I had to become the tin knocker for the entire week.

He has an aprentance who helps him in the shop.Anyways we had to build about 38 custom peice of duct work on wensday for a job on thursday 20 of the peices were risers that I would not exspect the aprentance to know how to build, the aprentance does not lay out metal he can only cut and assemble.So I built a sample duct and then I scratched out a template for him to use,all he had to do was to trace this template on to other sheets of metal with an awl then cut em and fold them up and then knock them together.

I left him alone for a while with specific instruction on what to do and how to do it.I contacted him several times during the day to check his progress and he said not to worry he is on schedule and the peices are perfect.

Thursday afternoon I get a call from the mecanics installing the duct work on the jobsite complaing of the fit of the ducts we had made for them He explained each one of the riser is a different size they grew about a 1/4 bigger.
To make a long story short what the metal aprentance did was trace my template with a magic marker (not an awl as intructed,an awl leaves less the a 1/16th mark,a magic marker leaves a little over an 1/8 of a mark an 1/8" on each side of the duct means it grows a 1/4" each time its traced)then assmebled my template into a duct. Then he cut out his template to the outside of the magic marker mark (his template now grew about a 1/4 in size) Then again traced his template with the dreaded magic marker then he would assembled his old template to make sure he was doing it correct ,then cut out his new over sized template trace it again and then cut it and kept tracing a new template each time.

So again to make a long story short. the only good template he had was the first one I had made for him and he should have only used that one,but he copied it incorectly and then kept on coping a bad new template.

This is what I think happens with some reproduction parts they may get the first run of them correct and then when they have to start building new ones they copy one of the reproduction ones instead of going back to the orginal one are just copied incorectly.

I share your frustration with the poor ill fitting reproduction parts.I just ordered new DeVille scripts for my caddy and I paid a fortune for them.I have to return them they are such poor quaility and will now be on the search for some clean N.O.S.

Good luck and may you be blessed with better reproduction parts in the future
 
That's where Doc Rebuild got one of his famous statements - "Never make a repro from a repro" :D
 
I ran in to two more repro issues today.

1. The repro rear window rubber spacers (bumpers) are of a different size than the originals. After test-fitting with the new spacers (yuck - bad fit), I went back to using the originals and the window fits perfectly. (By the way, the car looks better than ever with both front and rear glass now in.)

2. The interior moulding screw set for the rear window is listed in the ZIP catalogue as containing 14 screws -- just the correct number for the job. The "sealed" package contained four screws -- and they are all too long. :crazy

And on it goes.
 
I found many years ago that it's far better to re-use, re-furbish oem parts whever possible, plus I feel a lot better about using the original parts on the car where I can. Some parts you just can't re-use so your stuck using the new stuff that may or may not fit - rubber etc. Even then somtimes you almost feel that the old crusty one fits better. I was in the re chroming buisness for many years. Lots of folks for Mustangs and Camaros etc would opt for the new stuff - "why would I re chrome when I can get a whole new one for the same price??". Simply because the re chromed oem one will fit, be a heavier guage, triple plated, usually better in every way. I think it's real lucky that we have the availability of aftermarket replacement stuff when we don't have the oem piece at all but thats the only time in my book.
 
Bumpers that don't fit, stainless steel trim that doesn't fit, carpet's that are made incorrectly with the bindings in the wrong places, "correct" screw sets that are no more than hardware store bolts and nuts, tires with the wrong tread pattern, fiberglass that is moulded incorrectly, sheet metal parts with holes/nut plates in the wrong position, the list could be endless.

I've often said that most "reproduction" parts should be labeled "fair facimile" parts. Some are so bad that they don't even deserve the "fair facimile" label. :) Chuck
 
It continues with the C3 parts. I spent 4 hours trying to fit a center console to a 73, I cracked or broke it in three places trying to "make" it fit. Finally, I removed it, reinforced every mounting point with sheet metal underneath and riveted the crap out of it. Then when I forced it in, it had no choice but to go. Most of the other Repro parts used required some "help" to fit.

I'll keep this all in mind as I work on the first three generations. I haven't run into this yet on C4s. Maybe because the same technology is in use.;shrug
 
I know I've mentioned my buddy who I helped restoring a 57 Chev 2 dr ht. The owner brought the car to him in a million pieces (no notes on disassembly) along with a slew of new repro pieces, mainly chrome stuff. The owner was going to toss all the old stuff but my buddy convinced him to hang onto it. During reassembly, the only things that didn't fit were the repros. He ended up shipping most of the repro crap back and polished and/or rechromed the old stuff.

Moral of the story- never throw out anything... ever. You may need it someday.

-Mac
 
Well....if so many of you have probs with the repro stuff...why not start a list of the poor parts and what is incorrect ?

Also the ugliest stuff could have a yer end award as "NOT FAIR FACSIMILE" ....guess some of the distributors might not like the idea....
 

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