New intake for crossfire = more HP!!!!

[toobroketoretire]

This thread got very quiet.

Nothing new with the renegade?

The last thing DCS told me is they were going to start shipping their Renegades on Friday May 14th. If they did start shipping them, I should be getting mine pretty soon.

 

[nelson84]

I would think you will get yours maybe the 25 th tobroketoretire.
Renegades rule!!!

The torque curve will resemble the tpi tourque curve but will pull hard to about 5200- 5400 rpm because of the shorter runners. These crossfire cars will be a blast to drive with the renegades installed. They won't take down an LSx but they will bring new life to a crossfire car.

 

[nelson84]

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[toobroketoretire]

I would think you will get yours maybe the 25 th tobroketoretire.
Renegades rule!!!

The torque curve will resemble the tpi tourque curve but will pull hard to about 5200- 5400 rpm because of the shorter runners. These crossfire cars will be a blast to drive with the renegades installed. They won't take down an LSx but they will bring new life to a crossfire car.

The TPI equipped engines will have an advantage at the extreme bottom end because of their 17" long small diameter runners, but the Renegade equipped engines will certainly outperform them from mid range on up. With my.480" lift Erson 214/214 roller cam and big valve Dart heads, I'm expecting to make around 325-330 flywheel horsepower on 87 octane. And as the Renegade looks just like a stock Crossfire, I'll have no problem passing the "visual" portion of my California smog tests.

And yes, the Renegades will certainly wake up the Crossfire engines. I bought my '82 in the spring of 1988, and I've been hoping and praying ever since someone would make a replacement high performance intake manifold for the Crossfires. Thanks to DCS it's finally happening.

 

[nelson84]

Did you get your renegade yet tobroketoretire?

 

[toobroketoretire]

Did you get your renegade yet tobroketoretire?

Nope, not yet. I have e-mailed DCS several times; asking them if they're now shipping them. But they haven't replied. If they did indeed ship out a bunch of them last Friday, I should get mine any day now. Maybe it'll show up tomorrow.

 

[nelson84]

Nope, not yet. I have e-mailed DCS several times; asking them if they're now shipping them. But they haven't replied. If they did indeed ship out a bunch of them last Friday, I should get mine any day now. Maybe it'll show up tomorrow.

It's the 21 of May now did your intake show up yet?

 

[toobroketoretire]

It's the 21 of May now did your intake show up yet?

Nope, not yet. I'm beginning to wonder if it'll ever come. I am only #7 on their pre-buy list so mine should have shipped out in the first batch. I have a bad feeling they haven't shipped ANY of them yet. As I live in central California, mine should have arrived here by yesterday. I read Jim has been travelling back and forth to California to visit an ill family member so I guess DCS is short-handed at the moment. I'm hoping the ill family member fully recovers and DCS gets back to business.

 

[nelson84]

Good news the first 5 renegades are being shipped on May 24.

 

[toobroketoretire]

Good news the first 5 renegades are being shipped on May 24.

They originally said they were going to begin shipping them on Friday the 14th and it never happened. So they may not ship any on the 24th either. I have almost lost all hope of ever getting mine.

 

[GRAND SPORT #12]

i hope it works for you . i like the L83 engine . great trick looks just sad GM put such a crap intake manifold design on it but if you find one that flows good start there then you can do the rest . plus it looks cool as ever like old retro cross ram intakes

 

[ex-x-fire]

Who cares if it has a retro cross ram look, the stupid box(84s) that holds the air cleaner covers it completely up.

 

[toobroketoretire]

Who cares if it has a retro cross ram look, the stupid box(84s) that holds the air cleaner covers it completely up.

Yeah, the '84's do have a butt ugly air cleaner. My '82 has a much different design that is somewhat oval in shape. But it still covers up most of the manifold. But I rarely open my hood anyway because my engine compartment is always so filthy from the dust and dirt that comes from my mile long dirt driveway.

 

[nelson84]

Yeah, the '84's do have a butt ugly air cleaner. My '82 has a much different design that is somewhat oval in shape. But it still covers up most of the manifold. But I rarely open my hood anyway because my engine compartment is always so filthy from the dust and dirt that comes from my mile long dirt driveway.

Butt ugly???

 

[toobroketoretire]

Butt ugly???

Yeah, butt ugly. Yours looks pretty spiffy but I have always felt G.M. went out of their way to make butt ugly air cleaners for the '84's. Huge monsters they are. The air cleaners used on the '82's are clean and to the point, but the air cleaners used on the '84's are overkill to the max. They are so huge you'd never know there is a Renegade under it. It's too bad G.M. decided to do away with the slick ram air previously used on the '82's. I would think the ram air would add about 10 more horsepower at 100 mph.

 

[ex-x-fire]

The ram air on 84s have too many 90* turns to be effective. I like low restrictive air cleaners. This air cleaner base is very smooth & funnels air right in the tbi. On cfi I'd get 2 4 cylinder air cleaners, cut em up, & make a dual qual looking set up. I did that years ago, the engine ran lean b/c I didn't know you could make the stock fuel pressure reg. adjustable. I think there is potential in open element set up.

 

[toobroketoretire]

The ram air on 84s have too many 90* turns to be effective. I like low restrictive air cleaners. This air cleaner base is very smooth & funnels air right in the tbi. On cfi I'd get 2 4 cylinder air cleaners, cut em up, & make a dual qual looking set up. I did that years ago, the engine ran lean b/c I didn't know you could make the stock fuel pressure reg. adjustable. I think there is potential in open element set up.

That's a slick looking set-up. Is your 2-barrel throttle body off of a pickup truck? Or is one of those Edelbrocks? How does it run? Pretty good?

 

[ex-x-fire]

No its a holley tbi(stock replacement for 87-89 chevy 350s), I was running the holley projection intake(it has egr port, a block off plate, throttle bracket, & harware included), but I put on a smoky SY1 on it, it seems to make more midrange power over the holley. But w/ the holley, it idled better, & got better mpg. I may switch back....

 

[toobroketoretire]

No its a holley tbi(stock replacement for 87-89 chevy 350s), I was running the holley projection intake(it has egr port, a block off plate, throttle bracket, & harware included), but I put on a smoky SY1 on it, it seems to make more midrange power over the holley. But w/ the holley, it idled better, & got better mpg. I may switch back....

What is the cfm rating of your Holly?

 

[ex-x-fire]

Its rated at 670 cfm, it has 2'' bores, it has an adjustable fuel press. regulator under a cap(you can see I removed it in the picture), all the cfi connectors are the same, except for the 4 that operate the injectors. The stock ecm runs it just fine, all the gauges & info center(on 84s) work w/ out mods. The real trick is in the cam you choose, though the stock one is ok for mid builds, the modern rollers help out all over. You want one that makes great vacuum.
If you wanted you could use a factory(used) tbi from a 350, cfm is around 540 I think, injector connections would be the same. I wouldn't use a factory tbi intake though, I'd use a 4bbl. performer type intake(the holley intake was around $170 if I recall correctly), get a tbi/carb adapter(50 bucks?), do the TBI Ultimate Mods, & make a air cleaner that fits. I bet you could do it on a budget.