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'65 with C4 suspension

Tom Bryant

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1959 black 270hp (9/2/69) 1981 Beige L81(10/20/80)
I took this picture at Vettefest. It's a 1965 with C4 suspension, new LS6 with 6 speed and Z06 wheels. I like the medium grey color too.

Tom

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My son absolutely loves a VETTE with nice tires and rims.Allthough I go for the purest look I have thought about it several times,Some nice off set trailing arms with some real (67 HEAVEN style FAT tires

Excellent looking car,was you able to sway any new members to the forum while you were there?

Thanks for the picture Tom do you have any more?
 
A few. Posted one in the C1 forum and I will have another there and one in the LT4 forum later. Also will have a few in the Other Cars Forum. Got to go to work now though.

tom
 
I like the looks of that car! Color is right on, I could see it with a black stripe on the sml. block hood. :cool
 
Tom,

Great looking car. I'd like to see more pictures of it if you have them.

I don't know though about the idea of putting an LS6 engine, Z06 wheels and a six-speed in a vintage Vette. ;)

Rich Lagasse
 
Rich,

Actually I had to stand there about 10 minutes to get just that one shot. This was a very popular car and had a crowd around it all day. It was a business display for the shop that did the conversion. I thought I picked up their info sheet but I can't find it. I'll send a couple PMs to see if Barb or Cliff got one. I don't have any idea what they started with. With the availability of parts today you could start with a basic tub/cowl section with title and build from there.

Tom
 
richscorvettes said:
I don't know though about the idea of putting an LS6 engine, Z06 wheels and a six-speed in a vintage Vette. ;)

Rich Lagasse

Yeah, guys like that should be sent to Connecticut! :D

Thanks for all the great shots, Tom. I haven't posted in each thread, but I've been enjoying them! :)

- Mike Greene
 
Mike,

We've already got enough to those guys in Connecticut now - don't send any more.:D

Tom,

The owner of that car is Mark Frenkel from Texas. He and I have been keeping in touch during the project since August, 2001. The car has a Paul Newman Car Creations chassis conversion. They have done a great job on it and I really like the different choice of body color. I'm sure it drew a lot of attention.

Rich Lagasse
 
Thanks Rich,

I also just recieved a reply from Barb (BBB545) telling me it was Paul Newman Car Creations.

Click here for their web site----->X

I should have remembered that. I think I was suffering from info overload that day.

Tom
 
Rich and others, curious what the recommended plan of action is with building one of these conversion cars. For the most economical solution (which I assume is a laughable concept for these high dollar cars), what do you guys recommend starting with? aka, a rusted dog with a VIN, a driver without original motor e.t.c.? Thanks guys! Oh yeah, good letter in Vette Rich, I too would like to see more old Vette race cars, especially ones that have not received a ton of publicity.

Have a good one,
Jordan
 
Jordan from a fellow who is shopping for a C2 to complete a simulaar project I can tell you what I am looking for.

I am in the market for a near perfect Non original motor and drive train car,Interiour can be shabby,frame and suspention can be shabby, but other then that I want the car 100% complete and drivable.No disasembled cars,NO junks,Allthought the entire car will be redone I know for a fact its always easeyer and less exspensive to start with a rock solid car the a junker

Lastley I have an entire plan alreadey writtin on the build up of the car including a time line chart of what should be done by when and what the exspendatures should be I have allready aquired a motor for the car,I am going to order the trans and torque converter shortley. and have that readey to run,

Good luck
Larry
 
Jordan,

To answer your question regarding a starting point, it really depends on what your objective is. For example will it be used mainly as a driver, semi-show or full show car. You are right in saying that the term economical doesn't often enter into the picture though.

For a car that you plan on using mostly as a driver or cruise nights, etc. I agree with the observation that Larry made about finding a good car either without an engine or one that has an NOM. It can be an easier route to take and can well be the less expensive one in the long run although you will pay more up front. You'll often find that the owner of those cars may not be able to get back all they have invested and that's to your benefit. You can also defray some of your costs by selling those parts you will no longer be using such as the drivetrain and suspension.

If you plan to redo everything anyway you can start with something that isn't as good, presuming that all or most of the major parts are there, and you may be able to find one that's less expensive. The one I started with had most of the parts, minus the engine, but everything needed to be redone. The paint was blistered, the interior was trash, the windows were cracked, the chrome needed to be redone, etc. but it was what I wanted as I planned to redo everything anyway. It does add to the length of the project though.

Of course, all that is good in theory as you have to take what you can find out there for a starting point and go from there. Either way will work but I wouldn't suggest starting with a real basket case as you'll often find major pieces missing and lots of surprises. Those are the things that kill from a cost standpoint and they also add to the frustration you'll encounter. These projects should be fun and you don't want to go down that road if you can avoid it.

This type of project is really two projects in one. The conversion of the drivetrain and suspension can be very involved but you also have the restoration aspect depending on how good your starting point is. As Larry mentioned a good plan based on your research is key to ending up with the car you invisioned at the start. Even with that there will still be those things that are unforseable but that's part of the fun in doing something like this.

If you are ever interested in building one just let me know as I'd be glad to help.

Rich Lagasse
ps: We'll see how Vette magazine follows through on the vintage race cars. From what they said in the response there should be more coverage than in the past.
 

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