anyone know anything about these frames?

[firstgear]

take a look... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4569202340&fromMakeTrack=true

Checked the CC web site but it has the frames listed as discontinued...anyone got an idea what they used to retail for?

thanks, Herb

 

[John Mcgraw]

Herb,
Progressive still sells that same frame direct. My thoughts are that this is pretty old technology and will offer little improvement over a properly prepared original suspension. If you are going to all the trouble of updating the suspension of one of these old cars, then go all the way to C4/C5 suspension.
I believe that CC used to get about $11K for this setup.

Regards, John McGraw

 

[firstgear]

thanks John....as you can tell, I am still waffling all over the place on what to do....I don't have the money saved up just yet to spend for the Myers front end piece....so I keep looking and wondering.....thanks!!!

Herb

 

[studiog]

I'm not an expert but I am already looking ahead to my next project, a "resto-mod" probably a 61 model again. I think your biggest gain with this frame over stock is the rack & pinion steering and the front disk setup. Those two things alone are a big improvement over original, but as John M. suggested why stop there when you can make a tremendous improvement with a Myers or similar upgrade with c4 or c5 technology?

 

[firstgear]

I'm not an expert but I am already looking ahead to my next project, a "resto-mod" probably a 61 model again. I think your biggest gain with this frame over stock is the rack & pinion steering and the front disk setup. Those two things alone are a big improvement over original, but as John M. suggested why stop there when you can make a tremendous improvement with a Myers or similar upgrade with c4 or c5 technology?

$$$$ is the number one reason....the more I look at this the more I think the best solution fo rme is to go the Myers IFS route.....while it is true I would be most happy with the C5/C4 setup...I won't be as happy $$$ wise.....I could tap into my 401K for a loan no problem....probably make more money in interest from me than it is making in the market...so it all comes down to the money and do I want to spend it.....that is what is holding me back.....ME!!!!

 

[wapaugh]

I feel your pain Herb, as I am by nature a tightwad too. But after corresponding with John, Rich and Larry over the last year I've determined that there really is no other way to go than with the C5/C4 set up. I decided to save a little longer and get the one I wanted rather than the one I could afford. Of course, at the rate I'm going it's going to take me 10 more years to finish it. Didn't mean to rant, but I say go for it.

Wes

 

[firstgear]

I feel your pain Herb, as I am by nature a tightwad too. But after corresponding with John, Rich and Larry over the last year I've determined that there really is no other way to go than with the C5/C4 set up. I decided to save a little longer and get the one I wanted rather than the one I could afford. Of course, at the rate I'm going it's going to take me 10 more years to finish it. Didn't mean to rant, but I say go for it.

Wes

normally I am not a tight wad.....and my better half says if you can afford it, go for it.....but I also have an ex-half that I have to make 28 months more of spousal support....I want the car running before then....I want it on the road next summer....I could do it...but I would have to take on some more debt in order to.....and I don't want to wait 10 years....so, perhaps I make a compromise,,,see how it would go with the Myers set up....if it goes good, then perhaps I sell it and look for one to go for the gusto! My problem, gusto would mean full tube frame, C5/C4, LS2 or LS6 motor with Magnasupercharger....all of that stuff = lots of money....that is why I am better off with what I have for now......sigh....I know its only money and you can't take it with you.....lol......

 

[IH2LOSE]

Best of luck with your decition.

I chose the SR111 frame strickly for the cool factor of it being tubeular.

If there was no such thing as an SR111 frame,and I had a solid frame to work with I would have chose the Meyers set up myself.

Although I highley recomend the SR111 frame.This car I am building has been a highley labor intensive project. Most definately one that has tested all of my skills.

Wes will you be in carlilse this year. I am not sure who is closer .ME John McGraw but I would highley recomend you get a visit in with someone who has built one of these to feel it,touch it. and to just study the completed car to better under stand what you have to do.

 

[newbe60]

Meyer set up seems smart

I would agree.. just spending money on a new frame if your old is in good shape..doesn't seem like smart money..

If your looking for disc brakes,and rack and pinion.. consider a Meyer front with both of them and in addition tubular a arms.... along with a zz383 (if you need a new engine)

This way you could keep a rear like a 3.36 0r 3.08 if you have one already in there... and still have plenty of torque off the line.. the same rear wouln't be too bad at 65mph crusing( much better then a 3.7 or 4.11 at 65mph) and the rear should hold up and be fine....your Borg warner t-10 will hold up with street tires...

$$$ saved is... no frame..no transmission.. no rear.. and you still get a good driving hot rod car that with 400 HP and 450 ft lbs will be very very fast for the street and 1/4 if you ever decide to go to the track

 

[firstgear]

I would agree.. just spending money on a new frame if your old is in good shape..doesn't seem like smart money..

If your looking for disc brakes,and rack and pinion.. consider a Meyer front with both of them and in addition tubular a arms.... along with a zz383 (if you need a new engine)

This way you could keep a rear like a 3.36 0r 3.08 if you have one already in there... and still have plenty of torque off the line.. the same rear wouln't be too bad at 65mph crusing( much better then a 3.7 or 4.11 at 65mph) and the rear should hold up and be fine....your Borg warner t-10 will hold up with street tires...

$$$ saved is... no frame..no transmission.. no rear.. and you still get a good driving hot rod car that with 400 HP and 450 ft lbs will be very very fast for the street and 1/4 if you ever decide to go to the track

while I didnt get the zz383, I did have the 350 that came in the car rebuilt to a 383......I will be at Carlisle....looking one last time before ordering something......lol

 

[newbe60]

Let us know what you ordered

Seems like one last look is a good idea.. let us know if you see anything that caught your eye..

 

[firstgear]

Seems like one last look is a good idea.. let us know if you see anything that caught your eye..

well...Larry's car will be there....and Bob's car will be there....and I am sure that there will be a few others that will be there....and ALL OF THEM WILL CATCH MY EYE.....I am planning on taking a bib....nothing worse than drool running down the front of a grown man.......unless of course it is drool stains!!!!