Ballancing tires

[airman]

Has anyone tried to ballance there tires on the inside like Inavative Ballancing ? I have done this on my one ton duely and it works great,the faster the smoother.I am about to put new tires on and was curius if it would work on low profile tires.:confused

 

[Vettelt193]

Has anyone tried to ballance there tires on the inside like Inavative Ballancing ? I have done this on my one ton duely and it works great,the faster the smoother.I am about to put new tires on and was curius if it would work on low profile tires.:confused

you need to balance both on the inside and the outside.

I know of a few people that can balance with no weights on the outside, or you can use stick-on weights

 

[aboatguy]

Has anyone tried to ballance there tires on the inside like Inavative Ballancing ? I have done this on my one ton duely and it works great,the faster the smoother.I am about to put new tires on and was curius if it would work on low profile tires.:confused

I got lucky and was able to balance mine on the inside!

Mike

 

[jsinga]

get the full boat treatment from one of the Hunter GSP 9700 road force balancers.

JS

 

[JEFNLSA]

get the full boat treatment from one of the Hunter GSP 9700 road force balancers.

JS

I agree. You can find one at most Discount Tire outlets. More costly than a standard balance but worth every penny.

 

[JRMaroon]

Here is the process that was used for the last tire balancing on my car. It feels rock solid with a very quiet steering wheel.
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1. Remove the wheel and tire assembly from the car, and dynamically balance it using a Hunter GSP9700, or Roadforce Variation Machine
2. If applicable, index, or turn, the tire on the wheel to ensure the assembly is round when rolling
3. Apply the necessary weight to perfectly balance the wheel and tire assembly
4. Install the balanced wheel and tire assembly on the car using hand tools (no air-guns here)
5. Hand torque lugs or bolts to manufacturer specifications
6. Using our Hofmann finish-balancing machine to spin the non-drive wheels (i.e. front wheels on a rear-wheel drive car), and the motor of the car to spin the drive wheels, we run the wheel and tire assembly up to 120 miles per hour!
7. Minute measurements and adjustments are made to the balancing weights to ensure that the wheel and tire is perfectly matched to the hub of the car at all speeds

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I was a little uneasy watching my drive wheels turning at over 100 MPH while the car was off the ground. The value of vehicle these guys regularly work on far exceeds that of my old C4 so that helped my comfort level. The option I did pass on was Nitrogen for the tires.

Jeff

 

[Baldie88]

Prior to balancing you might want to make sure the insides are clean. I had trouble balancing mine and after talking to my mechanic I cleaned up the backsides of the wheels. The get gunked up with brake dust and grease over time. Mine were a mess. After scrubbing them down good with Simple Green and a stiff brush I had them rebalanced and no vibration.

Ron
"Baldie88"

 

[JEFNLSA]

Here is the process that was used for the last tire balancing on my car. It feels rock solid with a very quiet steering wheel.
********************************************

1. Remove the wheel and tire assembly from the car, and dynamically balance it using a Hunter GSP9700, or Roadforce Variation Machine
2. If applicable, index, or turn, the tire on the wheel to ensure the assembly is round when rolling
3. Apply the necessary weight to perfectly balance the wheel and tire assembly
4. Install the balanced wheel and tire assembly on the car using hand tools (no air-guns here)
5. Hand torque lugs or bolts to manufacturer specifications
6. Using our Hofmann finish-balancing machine to spin the non-drive wheels (i.e. front wheels on a rear-wheel drive car), and the motor of the car to spin the drive wheels, we run the wheel and tire assembly up to 120 miles per hour!
7. Minute measurements and adjustments are made to the balancing weights to ensure that the wheel and tire is perfectly matched to the hub of the car at all speeds

******************************************

I was a little uneasy watching my drive wheels turning at over 100 MPH while the car was off the ground. The value of vehicle these guys regularly work on far exceeds that of my old C4 so that helped my comfort level. The option I did pass on was Nitrogen for the tires.

Jeff

Where did you go to get a balance job like that?

 

[gmjunkie]

get the full boat treatment from one of the Hunter GSP 9700 road force balancers.

JS

This is By Far the best!!!! Oh Man,O Man, I got 10,000 more miles out of my run Crap's than I thought I would!! The car was just smoother All Over after having them on a GSP 9700 !! Pete wishuwerehere82 turned me on to having it done,Best money I'v spent!! junk!!

 

[gmjunkie]

Where did you go to get a balance job like that?

Man!! You can get every thing you want in HotLanta!!! And some thing's you don't want Too!! junk!!

 

[JEFNLSA]

Man!! You can get every thing you want in HotLanta!!! And some thing's you don't want Too!! junk!!

:L Good to know! :L

On a serious note though, that is one helluva thorough balancing job that he got. I want to know where!

 

[tlong]

They told me to use Helium because it makes it lighter. Settled on 50 psi medical grade Nitrous Oxide for a pick me up on long trips. After a few shots it's about at 32 but then who cares?

Jeff, I bet those F1s are like glass after that. I bought some CE wheels with Goodrich tires, what a downgrade! Saving for the Goodyears. Spoiled rotten on those.

 

[JRMaroon]

:L Good to know! :L

On a serious note though, that is one helluva thorough balancing job that he got. I want to know where!

Hey Jeff,

Here's the link to their website
http://www.butlertire.com/

Check out some of the serious rides (and ridiculous) in the "Gallery" section.

 

[Edmond]

What would Helium and Nitrogen do for the tires?

 

[MBDiagMan]

I have gone through all sorts of hassles with tire stores trying to get correct wheel balance. I finally threw my hands in the air and bought a used Coates 1001 Wheel Balancer and have never looked back.

Here's what you need to know to get a good balance:

Most of the tire store kids do NOT want to put a wheel weight on the outside of aluminum or alloy wheels because they have been chastized by customers for scratching their wheels. For this reason, if left on their own, they will do a static balance which involves a wheel weight on the inboard lip only. On most any modern passenger car with a nimble suspension, this will NOT get the job done and it is virtually guaranteed to vibrate.

What MUST be done is a DYNAMIC balance which involves weights on the inside AND outside plane of the wheel. If you are balancing a plain old steel wheel with a hubcap you simply use clip weights inboard AND outboard. For wide, deep offset, alloy wheels such as our Vettes, you use a clip weight on the inboard lip where it does not show and tape weights just behind the spokes of the wheel for the outer plane.

Many of the latest wheel balancers are even set up for this and will tell the operator EXACTLY where to put the tape weight. With a little understanding, however, even on an old 1001 such as mine can be used to place the tape weight in the right spot the first time.

Since most of you do NOT have your own wheel balancer, the MOST IMPORTANT advice for you is to NEVER settle for a static balance job that involves only a weight on the inside lip. With a Vettes suspension it is virtually guaranteed to vibrate.

Most tires will not require the use of the Hunter GSP9700. This machine measures for road force variation which is a fancy term for stiff spots of the tire. Most tires will not have excessive stiff spots, so most any computer spin balancer will work fine as long as you use weights on the inside AND outside planes of the wheel. If, however, you get a good dynamic balance with weights on inboard AND outboard planes and STILL have a vibration, it is time to find a Hunter GSP9700 with a tech that knows how to use it.

Merry Christmas,

 

[froggy47]

What he said.