Brake dust question

[Pseudomind]

I have a 97 Toyota Celica which has four wheel disc brakes, the brakes are good and I drive the ____ out of this car. (About the same as the vette, except it does not have the umph, so braking should be about equal on the both of them) I have noticed when I wash the Celica I do not have any brake pad dust, yet the Corvette gets covered in dust fairly easy when driven. I am wondering if maybe the Celica came standard with ceramic pads, whereas the Corvette does not.

Anyone have any knowledge about this?

Thanks

Will Friday ever get here?

 

[jrose7004]

I don't know what the Toyota came with but ceramics would solve a lot of your brake dust problem on the Vette.

 

[cruzer99]

If your getting brake dust it means your brakes are working. I always felt that brake dust means the pads are wearing and not the rotors. Although the cheaper the pads the more the brake dust. For daily drivers the carbon matalic works best.........my .02.

 

[bunyz06rabbitt]

For your next pad change, pick up some Hawk Hi-Performance pads from AJUSA! Low or no dust, and great stopping power. No shipping charges to lower 48.

 

[Pseudomind]

I have read some reviews about these and they sound pretty good. Has anyone else besides bunyz06rabbitt used them?

I am not in a rush at the moment, but I am thinking about when I do some upgrades to probably Z06 stock type wheels, but in chrome and also installing the Goodyear Eagle F1’s

 

[ErnieN85]

I have read some reviews about these and they sound pretty good. Has anyone else besides bunyz06rabbitt used them?

I am not in a rush at the moment, but I am thinking about when I do some upgrades to probably Z06 stock type wheels, but in chrome and also installing the Goodyear Eagle F1’s

F1's are not available in Z06 sizes, Supercars are they are best in the dry, don't last too long (wear) others availble Firestone wide ovals, Nitto's, Michelin, Toyo,
Firestone are best bang for the buck, Nitto drags, Toyo, Michelin, Goodyear, mostly dry traction although Goodyear is probably best at dry and worst at wet & wear (longevity)

 

[Vettevrooom]

I would love to get rid of the brake dust. Being yellow I can go a short distance and the back will be covered with it.

My son would like to know if there is a chance of safety being sacrificed by changing from the stock brakes. He wants me safe and said to live with the black dust if it means compromising safety. Personally I didn't think anyone here would suggest something unsafe. His baby is an MR2 that he's modified for years, so he's slowly learning about the Corvette by doing all the work on mine.

Also what is the difference in the two mentioned, the Hawks & the carbon metallic, are these ceramic?

Thanks & hugs!

 

[ErnieN85]

I would love to get rid of the brake dust. Being yellow I can go a short distance and the back will be covered with it.

what is the difference in the two mentioned, the Hawks & the carbon metallic, are these ceramic?

Thanks & hugs!

The only ones I'm sure of are the GM ceramic they will dust a lot less. However they are not the best for Track applications It seems to me that you are not thinking about taking your car to the track if that is the case Give Fred Beans (forum supporting vendor) a call for the best price on a set for your corvette

 

[blacksedan87]

I run the Hawk HPS pads on my car, and while the dust isn't gone - it's certainly less than the OEM pads. I've heard some negative things about the ceramics about not being real effective until they are fully heated up. Also - I think the ceramics dust too - but the difference seems to be that they dust with a lighter color (greyish-white) instead of black from the carbon metallics.

The Hawks stop great, don't squeak or squeal and dust less. I recommend them...

 

[6 Shooter]

Chrome Wheels Are Great, almost not dust!

Stock Z06 wheels are dust collectors.

 

[Vettevrooom]

blacksedan87 & ErnieN85: Thank you so much for the information. My son wants to know what operating temperature they are designed to operate under, and how it compares to OEM pad operating temperatures. I'm a daily driver but want go to the track with my son when his new engine is installed & compare the pickup but don't think I'll be racing Baby.

bunyz06rabbit: AJUSA is in Spain, is there a reason to order so far away...free shipping maybe??

6 Shooter: I don't have a Z. It's the rear body that gets covered. Wouldn't be bad if just the wheels.

 

[ErnieN85]

blacksedan87 & ErnieN85: Thank you so much for the information. My son wants to know what operating temperature they are designed to operate under, and how it compares to OEM pad operating temperatures. I'm a daily driver but want go to the track with my son when his new engine is installed & compare the pickup but don't think I'll be racing Baby.

bunyz06rabbit: AJUSA is in Spain, is there a reason to order so far away...free shipping maybe??

6 Shooter: I don't have a Z. It's the rear body that gets covered. Wouldn't be bad if just the wheels.

If you are going to a road course Vs drag strip Then simply get a set of stock Z06 pads for the front (beginner) and swap them for the track

 

[blacksedan87]

blacksedan87 & ErnieN85: Thank you so much for the information. My son wants to know what operating temperature they are designed to operate under, and how it compares to OEM pad operating temperatures. I'm a daily driver but want go to the track with my son when his new engine is installed & compare the pickup but don't think I'll be racing Baby.

I just checked the box that the HAWK HPS pads came in, they don't show operating temps or anything like that. I can tell you that HAWK is the official pad of the SCCA - whatever that really means.

I know that they have a full line of different compounds - some of the others are more suitable for racing/weekend warrior type applications. I agree with Ernie's suggestion - swapping pads is not that difficult - lots of the SCCA folks, keep a set of pads for racing or autocross and different set for the street.

The truth is that if the pad is really suitable for racing - where the brake temperatures get very high, it won't be suitable for the street. If you run a racing type pad on the street without the heat, you'll get a lot of brake squeal and more importantly - the performance will not be good. Some of the brake compounds only operate when they get very hot.