Brown Tires?

[netnarc2]

What causes the tires to get a brown tint to them. I have used Son of a Gun and Armour All on them but they seem to turn brown within a week. Any ideas of what is causing this?

 

[CKA_Racing]

Uh...the Armor All turns them brown. I'm not guessing, I know for a fact. Any of my Armor All covered tires turned brown. Many people don't believe it when warned until the brown tires makes them into believers. Think once they trun brown you can't do anything about.
I use other products now like Black Magic and others. I never use cheap stuff like armor all for anything now.

 

[vader86]

Only Black Magic for me.

 

[netnarc2]

Thanks for the info everyone.

 

[Eagle85C4]

Castrol Super Clean removes all the brown....makes the tire look new....

 

[Ken]

What causes the tires to get a brown tint to them.

Any ideas of what is causing this?

Oxidation, brake dust, road oils and the chemicals in some cleaners, all can give tires a dull, brownish-tint.

As for what to use to give them the apearance you desire, that is a matter of one's personal preference. I tend to avoid any tire preparation at all on mine unless the tires have been badly scuffed or something. I just use a gentle detergent and keep them clean as well as maintaining adequate pressure for the job at hand.

 

[CKA_Racing]

Re: Re: Brown Tires?

Oxidation, brake dust, road oils and the chemicals in some cleaners, all can give tires a dull, brownish-tint.

That's true but he is stating right there in his post he is using Armor All.

 

[paintdaddy]

Yep, as said earlier,its oxidation.Scrub them with ajax and a scrub brush each time you wash the car.

 

[Ken]

Re: Re: Brown Tires?

As for what to use to give them the apearance you desire, that is a matter of one's personal preference.

 

[Vettelt193]

I use Westleys Bleach White with a scrub brush every so often... that brings the tire back to black.

I used to use Black Magic Tire Wet, but it is tooooo thick. Once I found Eagle 1 Wet, I never looked back. The Eagle 1 product is just a little bit thinner, easier to apply, and it isn't so thick that the sprayer breaks (which happened on every bottle of tire wet I ever bought)

 

[AnytownUSA]

It's not really the dressing that turns them brown, it's the dressing capturing all the dirt and dust. When the dressing is wet it catches all kinds of junk off your rotors and off the road. (If you pay close attention the front wheels are almost always "browner" than the rear - most of it is brake dust.)

As the tires get hot the pores in the rubber expand and the dressing and dirt mixture is pulled "inside" the rubber (below the top surface). Think of grease in your finger prints. You wash your hands but there is always some left, not under your skin but below the surface you are cleaning. That's why more often than not the brown doesn't rub off on your fingers and stays on the tire through rain.

You can actually get your tires amazingly clean with just water and a brush - don't scratch those wheels though! I never use dressing on my vehicle, tires, trim etc. I get a lot of good comments on my clean tires. "Hey mayn, how'd you git that tyre dressn' so flat and black?' Easy, it's just clean rubber.

Dressing looks good, don't get me wrong, but I love clean. When I had my detail shop I had more than a few customers I converted over to the "no-dressing-for-me club." The extra cleaning and hassle is just not worth it to me - and they never turn brown!

 

[CKA_Racing]

You guys have all valid and true points. But the fact remains that using the armor all is causing his problems. That's a no brainer.
There are other products out there that don't cause this browning issue.

 

[CKA_Racing]

I use Westleys Bleach White with a scrub brush every so often... that brings the tire back to black.

I used to use Black Magic Tire Wet, but it is tooooo thick. Once I found Eagle 1 Wet, I never looked back. The Eagle 1 product is just a little bit thinner, easier to apply, and it isn't so thick that the sprayer breaks (which happened on every bottle of tire wet I ever bought)

Never had a problem with Black Magic or the bottles. Put on lightly and let dry works fine and stays on for a while. If you spray it on heavy and then take off down the road or highway it will come off onto the fenders some.

I'll have to try the Eagle 1.

 

[Vettelt193]

I never had a problem with the Black Magic once it was on the tire, my problem is the sprayers always broke... They would work for about 1/2 the bottle, then they would start to leak onto my hand every time I sprayed.

When I tried Wet, I was happier anyway... One quick pass covers the tire evenly, where Tire Wet never seemed to apply quite so even... I suggest trying the Eagle 1 Wet on your next purchase, it certainly isn't worth throwing out a good bottle of Tire Wet, but I am betting others will be just as happy with the Eagle 1 product as I am.

 

[CKA_Racing]

I never had a problem with the Black Magic once it was on the tire, my problem is the sprayers always broke... They would work for about 1/2 the bottle, then they would start to leak onto my hand every time I sprayed.

When I tried Wet, I was happier anyway... One quick pass covers the tire evenly, where Tire Wet never seemed to apply quite so even... I suggest trying the Eagle 1 Wet on your next purchase, it certainly isn't worth throwing out a good bottle of Tire Wet, but I am betting others will be just as happy with the Eagle 1 product as I am.

Will do.
Thanks

 

[Eagle85C4]

Well I disagree....every set of tires I have bought have had a brown tint to them and it is NOT from Armor-all.
When the tire is made at the factory the die into which the molten rubber is poured into is coated with a chemical to help in the removal of the tire from the die once it is made and ready to come out to keep it from sticking to the die. Similar to using Pam on cooking pans....this also serves to coat and protect the tire for storage until it is shipped out to the dealer or end user.
Again I use Castrol Super Clean to remove the coating and oxidation, as Ken related, and get it to the clean new rubber underneath.
The following article explains how a tire is made...

making tires
A paragraph from the the above article...

"Once all of a tire’s components are stitched together, it’s called a ‘green tire’ and looks like one of those inflatable tubes used by children in a swimming pool. The green tire then circles around a series of conveyor belts and is sprayed with what’s called a mold release agent. That chemical makes sure the tire does not stick in the mold/curing device. "


As you can see Armor All has nothing to do with it, it comes from the factory that way.

 

[paintdaddy]

I agree with eagle,its not from armor all.My mom never washes her car and doesnt even know what armor all is and her tires turn real brown from the florida sun.

 

[CKA_Racing]

Okay that's fine with me. But then explain why my tires covered in Armor all turn really brown? The tires without do turn a color from oxidation etc but no where near the Armor All covered tires. I am well aware that tires do turn color from oxidation.

Waiting for answer.
Thanks

 

[paintdaddy]

I have heard pro detailers say that they thought that armor all speeds up the aging of anything rubber vinyl or leather.Maybe thats it.I am not real sure.Might be a good question for detailingdude.

 

[CKA_Racing]

I emailed him, maybe he'll respond.