C1 hybrid car questions

[IH2LOSE]

No its not great, it is spectacular!

I find I am doing the majority of my work on the bottom slack side of the belt.Its less agaressive because of the larger surface area.Thanks again another tool I should have purchased years ago

 

[IH2LOSE]

Well I picked up my frame this week end at Corvettes of Carlilse

Now I really have to get to work on it

 

[IH2LOSE]

PS

It was a pleasure to meet both Wes and Rich L in person

 

[richscorvettes]

Larry,

It was a pleasure to meet you (after all this time of electronic exchange) in person. I see that you got the chassis home safely. We stayed with a friend on Sunday night and just pulled in this afternoon.

It was another great year for Carlisle. There will be a one hour special on Carlisle sometime (supposedly) in February, 2005. My wife, son and I were interviewed for it but have no idea how they will use the interview. It was done by the crew from Car Crazy and will be on SpeedVision. We also spent quite a while speaking with Barry Meguiar who is the same in person as he is on TV.

Have fun with the chassis.

Rich

 

[BarryK]

Rich

i'm sure you won't remember but I got the opportunity to meet you on Sat.
It was great to finally meet you and talk to you a little bit.
Your car was absolutely beautiful and even more impressive in person than the pictures i've seen from your website.
Can't wait to see your family and your car on Speedvision.

Barry

 

[richscorvettes]

Barry,

I certainly remember meeting you - haven't lost all my memory yet!

Carlisle was another great event and meeting many of the folks you only know by exchanges on the forums is a real pleasure for my wife and I.

As far as the Carlisle special we'll see how much of that tape ends up on the cutting room floor! :L

Rich

 

[wapaugh]

PS

It was a pleasure to meet both Wes and Rich L in person

Larry,

It was a pleasure meeting you, too. I'm really looking forward to following the progress of your project and if I can ever get started in earnest on mine, perhaps I'll finally have something to contribute to this forum.

Rich,

I'm truly sorry I missed meeting you in person. I was really looking forward to talking to you, but had to fly out earlier than expected.

Wes

 

[richscorvettes]

Wes,

I know how difficult it can be to take in everything at Carlisle. With the sea of Corvettes and people (and the humidity and heat) it can take it's toll. One woman literally stumbled into the tent where we were and collapsed. Luckily my wife is a nurse so Barb was able to cool her with ice packs and give her some fluids to revive her. It's great to have someone like her around!

We missed getting around as much as we would have liked even though we were there for four days! But, there's always the electronic means to communicate so just let me know if there is anything where I can be of help. Sorry we missed one another.

Rich

 

[IH2LOSE]

Its almost a roller,I am just waiting on my springs and front sway bar.Once I get them I will be able to trim off what I have to to fit in the springs.

this is how it sits tonight

I plan on installing the engine and trans next.I originally was going to send the frame out for paint I will wait to see if I have to fab anything on the frame prior to paint

 

[67HEAVEN]

Beautiful....simply beautiful! :eek

 

[John Mcgraw]

Larry,

Good idea on holding off on the paint until all fab work is done. As far along as mine is, I still ended up welding on my chassis last week, GRRRRR.......!
I did not have the headers yet when I fabricated my steering, but now the shaft does not clear the header tube. I had to add a support bearing off my frame to allow me to jog the shaft around the headers! I also didn't have a mount for my proportioning valve, but I opted to make a bolt-on bracket for it rather than wels another bracket to the frame. I fabbed up the bracket and ran it through the plating tank, and then tapped a couple of holes in the frame to bolt it to.
Here is a link to pics of both additions.
http://www.villagephotos.com/pubbrowse.asp?selected=996087 http://www.villagephotos.com/pubbrowse.asp?selected=0

Regards, John McGraw

 

[Tom Bryant]

Slick bracket.

 

[IH2LOSE]

John

What type of tubeing are you using? It almost looks copper in collor on my lap top.

Your use of the hyme end for a bearing is pure genius.

What type of a master cylender did you get?(I need to order one) Do you have photos of where you ran the brake lines? and the fuel lines Did you just drill a hole then tap it to mount the brake line clips and fuel line clips or did you use the nutserts.

I was going to criss cross my brake lines

left front with right rear and then right front with left rear but will now after looking at your proprtioning valve I think I will install a proportioning valve.

I was also looking for 2-12 volt normally open solinodes I could install in the brake lines for security so I could apply the brakes and then energise this solinode to lock the brakes on.

I am also trying to figure out what to get to do an emergency brake. I am going order the rear brake cable from a C4 and see what else is needed.

What size rims did you use on the back? can you post a close up of how close the rear lower shock mount is to the rim (on the back side where the shock mounts to the bolt) unless this shock goes in at a severe angle (canted to the front on the bottom)it seems that it wont fit.I used the same size tires and back space as a C5 runs on the front

Now any one thinking of a tube frame convertion from SR111 I just have to say that to this point every thing have mounted up PERFECTLY. And mike has an excellent design.

Lastly did you clean up all of his welds or just leave them there.I was going to tiger hair all of the welds to smooth them and make them blend in but my body shop is suggesting I leave them as they are.(there sure is alot of welds on these )I see from your bearing photo you smoothed that one in but what did you do with the rest of them.As always

Thanks for the input.

 

[John Mcgraw]

Larry,

I can't take the credit for thinking of the Heim joint, the street rod guys have been using them for years. I used all polished stainless tubing, but the fittings are gold zinc di-chromate plated fittings. I found a source for the polished SS fittings after I had already started on the lines, so I just stayed with the plated steel. It is the flourescent lights and the digital camera that makes them look so copper colored. I had the camera's white balance set for outside pics from the other day, and just failed to reset it. I just drilled an tapped the frame for the retaining clips. I have used nutserts on any fastener over #10, but 10 and below just get tapped.

I used a C4 master cylinder on a 7" dual diaphram booster. There are a number of places that sell them including Paul Newman. I bought mine from a friend who builds C4 conversions just a few miles from me by the name of Billy Dawson. He runs a shop called Corvette Correction. At the bottom of the post is a link to what the unit looks like. This is the same style unit that Rich used on his 62.

The parking brake is a little bit of a problem on the SRIII chassis since they do not have the lever on the chassis which multiplies the force from the emergency brake from the original hand brake. This makes the use of the original hand brake not an option. I started out with the thought of using a Lokar foot brake under the dash, but ended up using a Lokar hand brake mounted to the top of the trans tunnell right in front of the glovebox door.
I had to change the stop on the glovebox door to stop it from going down and hitting the brake handle, but is was a nothing job. I will post some pics for you when I get home tonight. From this handle you can use their nice braided stainless steel cables, and they also have the correct clevis to work with your E-brakes.
I used C5 front wheels (8.5") on both front and rear. there is no way you could put anything wider on the rear without some tub work or modifying the quarters.

For the most part, I did not smooth up the welds. There were a few where they were real visible that I did some work on, but for the most part I left them alone. Rich paid Mike extra to TIG weld his whole C2 chassis, and I probably would consider doing the same if I ever do another, but his MIG welds look pretty nice once they are painted, and they are after all, under the car!

http://www.villagephotos.com/pubbrowse.asp?selected=748146

Regards, John McGraw

 

[John Mcgraw]

Larry,

Here are some pics. The first pic shows that there is not much clearance at the rear wheel from the shock bolt and you will notice that I faced the head rearwards. Then there are a couple of pics of the brake lines and routing. Then the next pic of the side of the trans shows the nifty little Lokar trans position indicator. It sends a signal to the inside of the car to an indicator on the shift bezel which will light an indicator which shows which gear you are in. The next pics show the shifter and parking brake which are both Lokar items. The last pic shows the glovebox door after I changed the stops on it to keep it from opening on top of the hand brake. I will make a leather boot for both that will match the seats and door panels.

http://www.villagephotos.com/pubbrowse.asp?selected=997260


Regards, John McGraw

 

[IH2LOSE]

Well from those photos I now am reassured that the shocks will fit and I have to say thats a small clearance But I guess as long as it clears thats fine with me.


Now I feel cheap I was just going to go with a inexspencive ratcheting shifter from jegs ( pretty trick shifter set up you have there) I should have my shocks,springs,coils on friday so I will install them this week end.I am also waiting on my stainless catalogs to start ordering the nuts and bolts.Thanks for all of the help Your making this project easey for me.I am still in awe that every thing bolted up so well.I was staring at the frame tonight in the garage and he really has a great design the way every thing fits so well

 

[IH2LOSE]

Where are you getting this shifter and the hand brake

 

[John Mcgraw]

Jegs can get the full line of Lokar products, and are pretty reasonable. I use a company called RJays since they area few bucks cheaper and seem to have a pretty deep Lokar inventory. You can look at their full line in an electronic catalog at www.Lokar.com. These guys own the Streetrod market for shifters, parking brakes, throttle pedals and cables as well as a lot of dress-up accessories like dip sticks, ect. I am using their throttle, engine and trans dipsticks, Ebrake cables and handle, shifter and interior door latch handles. They build some nice parts!

Regards, John McGraw

 

[IH2LOSE]

So it looks like lokar products it will be. Are you using the body mount or the trans mounted shifter?

How long of a e brake cable did you order?

Does the shifter use lingage to shift or a cable?

 

[John Mcgraw]

I ended up using the body mount shifter to get it to mount right where I wanted it. If you notice, the shifter is now centered in the tunnell as opposed to being all the way to the left side. I did this so there would be room for the indicator bezel and also to make it look more balanced. I ended up cutting out the top of the tunnell all the way past the ashtray (I'll never use it anyway), and fabricated a new aluminum plate to mount the shifter to. It is connecter by hard linkage and not a cable.

The E-brake cables are only sold in one length, and you cut both the jacket and center cable to length and install the cable ends. Their throttle cables are the same way, since hot rodders like a cable that looks like it was made to fit their paticular car.

Regards, John McGraw