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Chris Kennedy

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Well, after getting a lot of b.s. from Houston upholstery shops, I gritted my teeth and installed, myself (with one exception, below), all new black carpeting, seat belts (GM) and a black handbrake cover into my Ebay rat '89 last weekend. The original interior seats, door panels and carpeting were a really drab gray and the seats were in terrible shape, the door panels so-so etc. After replacing everything with used black seats, used door panels and new carpet the interior looks downright terrific! I don't mean to boast, but I am frankly amazed at how good a job I did. It took most of the weekend, but I have never done this job at all, and all the "professional" shops I went to were whining and complaining about the difficulty, time etc etc etc. Obviously, if I did this on a routine basis I would have things down pat, so all this complaining was unjustified.
Anway, before I get carried away with myself, the only thing left to do is to put in the two small pieces of carpet on the lower dash, and I have read that taking off the right underdash panels can be difficult, etc. However, from the looks of everything, I am wondering whether it is possible to simply cut off the old carpet, and fit the new pieces on the panels and then tuck in the edges without all the disassembly? Has anyone done this, and do they have any guidance or suggestions?

Thanks!
/s/ Chris Kennedy
Houston, Texas
 
I removed the driver side bolster to install the carpet but I couldn't figure out how to remove the passenger side bolster, so I did just what you said and simply tore out the old carpet, sprayed some glue on the bolster, and installed the new carpet. I tucked the edges under the trim and it looks great.
 
There is always two ways of doing everything...the correct way...and the bubba way. Just take the seat out, get your small socket set with extentions and swivels and take the bolster out.
 
Well, after some fumbling around yesterday afternoon I managed to get both underdash pieces out and the new ones installed. What I did was, I guess, a combination of the "right way" and what a gentleman referred to as the "bubba way" (which sometimes works better than the "right" way, in my experience with our cars). I disassembled the plastic underdash panels and pried the carpet loose (on the drivers' side it was held in place by a number of staples). That, and some of the 3M spray glue did the trick. Even though these were by far the smallest pieces, they proved to be the hardest pieces to get in place, with the side console panels running a distant second. It really does look great, though, and I am really pleased I didn't chicken out and take it to one of the "professionals". My guess is that I would've gotten a call from them during the day, claiming they ran into some big problem that would cost extra, etc etc etc.

I ordered the carpeting from Mid America after a bad experience with some carpets from another supplier. One thing I liked about Mid America is that they sent the carpets in two large, square boxes, so that it didn't have to be all folded up with the resulting creases and wrinkles. Also, they sent instructions. If anyone else is thinking of doing this work, please contact me if you want "tips", based on my own experience. Mid America rates this job as a "2", which may technically be the case BUT it can be a pretty laborious task. The results are definately worth it, though, including a sense of personal satisfaction of winning one over the auto repair industry!

Thank you, everyone, who replied to my posting. I appreciate your time and kindness.

/a/ Chris Kennedy
Houston, Texas
 
Carpet help

Hey Chris,

One of my projects when I return from Iraq in Jan is to replace my carpet. I am not much of a wrench turner but I can do simple things as long as I have good instructions and some music cranking in the garage. Is the carpet relatively easy and did you use the mass backing carpet that they offer? I have an 1988 Black 4+3 and the carpet that is currently in their has started wear at the pedals and has separated off the console area. I have tried to glue it down without luck. My seats are in great shape but I really want new carpet. I will take any advice you have.
 
Well done Chris.:upthumbs

There are 3 key words that people like carpet installers use to UP the price.

1)Boat

2)Airplane

3)Corvette

In fact our cars are much easier to work on than a lot of run of the mill cars. Every time a Vette owner like you takes matters into his own hands it is a goal for our side.:_rock

Now if I could just learn how to paint.:ugh
 
johnny80 said:
Hey Chris,

One of my projects when I return from Iraq in Jan is to replace my carpet. I am not much of a wrench turner but I can do simple things as long as I have good instructions and some music cranking in the garage. Is the carpet relatively easy and did you use the mass backing carpet that they offer? I have an 1988 Black 4+3 and the carpet that is currently in their has started wear at the pedals and has separated off the console area. I have tried to glue it down without luck. My seats are in great shape but I really want new carpet. I will take any advice you have.

Hi!

It's not hard to do the carpeting at all, but you will need a good work area with lots of light. I have a tight parking space with a cover and gate, and simply could move the car inside and out. Basic tools will suffice: You will need a socket wrench with a 13mm deep socket for the seats, and you will need a Torx fitting to put on the socket wrench to take off the seat belts. There are a number of screws which wrench fittings on the end, yet these are all the same size so one socket will do (although you will need one of those socket extensions that converts the standard 3/8ths drive to 1/4th (I think this is correct) for these screws. Other than that, a good set of screwdrivers, carpet cutters (from a Loew's or Home Depot) and a knife and some of the spray glue you get from Auto stores (3M makes it) is all you need. You may also want to have a portable light handy that plugs into the cirgarette lighter. The instructions with the carpeting mentioned getting a heat gun, and I bought one but I didn't need it and will return it.

I did get the mass backed carpeting from Mid America. I thought it might fight better, since this was the original type of backing, although I am not sure that it is really necessary to get it. My recommendation would be to get it, to be on the safe side. It came nicely packed, with instructions. I had to cut speaker holes in back and small holes for the thing the top attaches to when you take it off and store it in the back, but this is all VERY easy to do, and there was very little other trimming that needed to be done. Also, note in pen on the instructions which pieces go under/overlap other pieces.

To take off the side console plastic pieces to which the carpet is attached, what I did afer taking out the bolt like screws beneath the soft console lid was loosen all the screws that hold the console plate (in front of the lid) on, or which hold console or dash trim on that press in some way on the console plate. There is also a screw which holds the side console piece down that is right below the place where the vertical dash trim meets up with the console plate. Once all the pieces I mentioned have been loosened, you can move/bend the pieces around enough to remove that screw without taking everything off (the other screws holding the side console piece on are located lower down, beneath the carpet on the side on the transmission tunnel. Simply lift the carpeting to take these off). THAT screw (the one beneath where the vertical trim piece meets the console plate) is actually totally unnecessary, as there are enough other screws on the plastic piece which hold the console trim on just fine. So, it's up to you whether you want to go through the hassle of trying to put it back in.

The carpeting goes back in much more quickly, it seems, than it comes out! The fact that many of the Corvette carpeting pieces simply overlap each other makes it surprisingly easy to put in the new carpeting. You simply lay it in there in the proper order (over and under) and things line up fine and look fine. To take off the big flat peice in the back, I removed the plastic trim piece above the pull out shade. There is a weird little washer type piece which screws down over bolts and holds the carpet down. I did some minor trimming of the console pirces before spray gluing them on the panels, but, again, it was VERY easy to do and only a minor trimming was needed. On the sill panels, I had gotten some used ones and so did not need to take off the old carpet from the plastic panels and then glue the new stuff on---that COULD be tricky, as the carpet is glued on pretty tight. Interestingly, Corvette Central makes a new driver's side sill panel with the carpet atttached (but only in black)---if your driver's side is shot, but the passenger side in o.k., I'd recommend getting the Corvette Central piece to cut down on the hassle. I also had some used black door panels, and so did not need the door carpeting piece. It looks fine (most of the door carpeting is covered by the sills when the door is shut), so unless your panels are bad, or the carpeting is bad, I wouldn't sweat it.

I am sure that there are lots of other questions you might have, so please forward them to me. If you want to talk, my phone is 713/227-7444.

Finally, I want to let you and everyone else in Iraq know how I and the rest of the country are 100% behind you, there. Don't pay any attention to certain naysayers you might hear about from time to time on PBS or CNN-- no one is listening to them. Everytime we overcome one "oh, my God" moment from these people, then they've got another "oh, my God" complaint. I am familiar with the Middle East, and taking the fight to these thugs and stopping them is absolutely essential to the nation's safety and well being. Today the wire services are reporting that Zarqawi may have been seriously wounded in Operation Matador last week---let's hope he was! Anyhow, as you think of other questions please ask.

/s/ Chris Kennedy
Houston, Texas
 
SPANISHVETTS said:
Well done Chris.:upthumbs

There are 3 key words that people like carpet installers use to UP the price.

1)Boat

2)Airplane

3)Corvette

In fact our cars are much easier to work on than a lot of run of the mill cars. Every time a Vette owner like you takes matters into his own hands it is a goal for our side.:_rock

Now if I could just learn how to paint.:ugh

Thanks!----Yeah, I wondered about your "3 key words" theory, too. One place I went to for an interior estimate first told me that I "needed" to have a paint job (he complained about orange peel in my paint)! I think the word must be out that many Corvette owners are into the full trailor queen mode, hence this assumption that everyone is. I dare say it would be one of these $4k paint jobs where they keep your car for months.

/s/ Chris Kennedy
Houston, Texas
 
Thanks alot Chris!

You made it seem so easy! Now if you can detail how to switch a 4+3 for a six speed, I'd be all set. (Just kidding) But thanks for the words of encouragement also! In the past I've gotten great words of thanks and such from Ken and all the folks here. This website helps me stay grounded and keep focused my family at home and my "other girl" in the garage. Thanks again!
 
johnny80 said:
Thanks alot Chris!

You made it seem so easy! Now if you can detail how to switch a 4+3 for a six speed, I'd be all set. (Just kidding) But thanks for the words of encouragement also! In the past I've gotten great words of thanks and such from Ken and all the folks here. This website helps me stay grounded and keep focused my family at home and my "other girl" in the garage. Thanks again!

Here's my swap

http://www.areddy.net/vettetrans
 
Thanks!

I know that must of been a knuckle buster. Are you still having issues with yours. I know you posted that you were running into problems but that they were going to honor the warranty and get you a new tranny. Any luck or updates?
 
johnny80 said:
Thanks!

I know that must of been a knuckle buster. Are you still having issues with yours. I know you posted that you were running into problems but that they were going to honor the warranty and get you a new tranny. Any luck or updates?
larry bud,

I can not imagine doing all of that work on jack stands.:ugh

You must have a backbone stronger than Charles Atlas.;worship

What is the latest news from Richmond? Did you swap the tranny?
 
johnny80 said:
Hey Chris,

One of my projects when I return from Iraq in Jan is to replace my carpet. I am not much of a wrench turner but I can do simple things as long as I have good instructions and some music cranking in the garage. Is the carpet relatively easy and did you use the mass backing carpet that they offer? I have an 1988 Black 4+3 and the carpet that is currently in their has started wear at the pedals and has separated off the console area. I have tried to glue it down without luck. My seats are in great shape but I really want new carpet. I will take any advice you have.

Thank you Sir for you and your families heroic sacrafice for me and my family. God bless you and yours as you do what most would not dream of doing.

110% support from me and mine.

Joe
 
johnny80 said:
Thanks for the kind words!

Johnny

What a great country we live in when a service man engaged in warfare can chat with others about his American Icon car! Gotta love it.
 
C4ME said:
What a great country we live in when a service man engaged in warfare can chat with others about his American Icon car! Gotta love it.

Oh, absolutely correct! With each passing day I find myself more and more thankful for this country and protective of it. Frankly, I wish we would stop being so hard on ourselves all the time----it seems that everytime someone somewhere in the world is unhappy WE blame ourselves, or allow ourselves to be blamed.

/s/ Chris Kennedy
Houston, Texas
 
----it seems that everytime someone somewhere in the world is unhappy WE blame oursel

Hear you on that one man. As soon as my carrier came back home (Japan at the time) I went and bought my first corvette. :D All it took was three very long months bombing the sh** out of Saddam.
 

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