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grumpyvette

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the red line is normal, N/A engine pressure(no combustion)
the blue is useing NITROUS
thats where you get the extra torque from, the nitrous increased cylinder pressure!
notice thats also why the exhaust timing durration on a nitrous cam must be longer in durration to allow the extra exhaust volume to bleed off or youll have serious pumping losses while the engine fights the extra cylinder pressure that tends to restrict flow into the cylinder if you exhaust does not scavage correctly to allow the fast moving flow out of the cylinder to help drag the incoming charge into the cylinders
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http://hcs.harvard.edu/~jus/0303/kuo.pdf

http://www.gmrc.org/gmrc/pdf/Beshouri5-AETCO.pdf

heres a crank angle chart for a 350 chevy
http://www.iskycams.com/ART/techinfo/ncrank1.pdf
heres a typical cam card
http://www.cranecams.com/?show=browseParts&action=partSpec&partNumber=119661&lvl=2&prt=5

notice that the cam exhaust opened on this cam at 83 degrees before bottom dead center, and by bottom dead center the cylinder has lost about 80%-90% of its peak pressure and if the exhaust is correctly designed it could even be negative pressure while exhaust scavaging takes place (look at the crank angle and the same degrees on the pressure curve, but keep in mind its a 720 degree cycle and some of those charts only show 360 of those 720 degrees) but if your running a stock restrictive exhaust , a mild cam and low compression like most stock engines and your spinning the engine at high rpms there still could be that 10%-20% pressure in the cylinder at bdc.
look also at the remaining cylinder pressure at each point in the graph, , its faily obvious that the exhaust must be long in durration and that the intake might need to open slightly later in the cycle to allow extra time for the exhaust to bleed off, and open the exhaust earlier in the cycle, thats why nitrous cams tend to have a wider LSA and longer exhaust durration compared to intake durration
if YOU look at the cylinder pressure curves youll see that the cylinder bleeds down quite rapidly as the piston moves away from tdc on the power stroke and falls even faster once the exhaust valve opens, if there is significant pressure left at bdc the engine won,t run very well at higher rpms, thats one of the reasons header scavaging and cam overlap and matching the exhaust timing and duration are so important to engine design
 
It's no wonder that I spend a lot of time here; so much reading, so little time. :eyerole

Thanks Grumpy.
 
Grumpy, I'm having trouble understanding what you are saying. Does that graph show an engine cycle with high duration? But I thought that wasn't desired..?
 
what im saying is that if you want to run nitrous the engine should use a cam designed especialy for nitrous use if you want to get the maximum benifit from that nitrous,while a 150hp shot in a standard cam engine will get close to the advertized results , useing a cam designed especially for nitrous could easilly give you an additional 20-30 hp thru reduced pumping losses and more effective use of the extra cylinder pressures. while its true that nitrous cams tend to cost you a slight amout of power when your not useing the nitrous over a standard cam with very similar duration and lift the results on nitrous when the correctly matching cam is used is significantly better. since youll be useing nitrous when racing the cars max performance when NOT racing will not be a significant problem. or put another way, its better to lose 15 hp when cruising at 60mph to gain 30hp when racing than gain 15hp you don,t use while cruising but gain 30hp when you can use it while racing by taking full advantage of your nitrous kits full potential
 

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