Disappointed

[hoosierdaddy]

2005 C-6 Z06 Production

I hadn't even heard any numbers yet. ad Hope they don't price the All American Sports Car out of the park that you would have to be in the oil business to own one!

Bill

Didn't they want so shoot for 15-20% of total Corvette production?

 

[Jack]

Does anyone know the production numbers for it yet?Bill

I read a splash in January's SAE that quoted the output of the LS7 motor plant at about 30 units per day. So, would 5K-7.5K Z06 per year be reasonable ... I dunno?
JACK:gap

 

[hoosierdaddy]

It will be exciting :Twist to see one, and also finally find out what the price is going to be. I assume the 6-speed will be the only transmission available in it again, right?

Bill

I read a splash in January's SAE that quoted the output of the LS7 motor plant at about 30 units per day. So, would 5K-7.5K Z06 per year be reasonable ... I dunno?
JACK:gap

 

[Gorgon]

I don't understand all the complaining about the price of a car when the pricing information has not been released from GM yet. Wait for the official pricing and then complain.

Leon

 

[3968]

sour grapes-sorry

I thank you all for your great response and input and hate to introduce a negative aspect to an otherwise banner time in automotive high performance evolution and I am sorry if my opinion has upset anyone but I really think they went a little too far with the Z06.I know they haven't released an msrp yet but do to the use of exotic materials and one off tooling I think we all can guess about where it will be.As stated in my original comments I will stick to my estimate of over 100k out the door which includes whatever crazy availability charges the dealers can get away with.As I stated in an earlier comment I think if they used the existing space frame,cradle and body materials(at a cost of 50 something pounds-that's 1 dog and 10 cd's)then they could offer the car at a much more middle class friendly price and build much greater numbers which would defeat the dealer charges,I would defy anyone short of a competition driver on a timed closed course to tell the difference.I know at least in the south Florida area there are enough people of privilege where they will sell them all no matter what the cost.The C6-Z06 is obviously a fantastic world class car and I understand many here are excited about the prospect of sticking it to the Italian and German car builders.I guess my point all along has been that there are enough big shots out there with Mac F1's,SL-55's,Turbo Carrera's and Modena spider's.The Z06 IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR US -NOT THEM. I've always considered Chevrolet to be a car of the people,work hard-save your money and you can buy anything on the lot.The Z06 will surely fall into a bracket where that is no longer the case and will end up being just another toy for the Porshe and Ferrari crowd.I wish you all the best of luck and remember--[USA-1]...2 months-2 weeks until my red,Z-51,6 spd(poor people car)...can't wait...

 

[hoosierdaddy]

New 2005 C-6 Z06

I for one am not complaining, just carring on a conversation! Rumors are running rampid about pricing that is for sure. But Car and Driver has already stated the price to be in the $70K range if memory serves me. I personally don't care what the price is I am still going to stick with my C-5 regardless of the price. Much over the $60K range will make it too high for the working class anyway!! As Americans we can complain before and after the official price release, that is why I am proud to be an AMERICAN. . . . .

"GOD BLESS AMERICA, AND THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE MILITARY" ​

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Bill ​

I don't understand all the complaining about the price of a car when the pricing information has not been released from GM yet. Wait for the official pricing and then complain.

Leon

 

[Z06 Tom]

...I have no doubt their going to put at least 25k onto the Z06...

Welcome 3968! If you find a dealer asking that kind of price, I'd walk inside and tell him what he could do with his Z, sideways!!! :booty Let the initial buzz die down, and they'll be at sticker or bellow. Shop with some of the supporting dealers on the various boards, that's where you'll find a deal.

I wouldn't buy a first year Vette with a completely new engine anyway. I bought an '01 Z, but that's another story. Remember, the LS7 is a COMPLETELY new motor. Remember the ring problems with the '01 LS6? Let 'em get the bugs worked out in the first year, and buy one at sticker (or less) in year two.

 

[hoosierdaddy]

C-6

RIGHT ON BROTHER, let the hype die down for a while and then maybe they will be affordable for the working class folks. . . . . . . . No doubt they will be considerably higher than the C-6 Coupe and drop-top.

Can't wait to see one even though the C-6 hasn't quite grown on me yet.

Later,
Bill

 

[Gorgon]

Dealer markup is temporary and doesn't really factor into what the car is worth. You think someone selling their 1 year old C6 is going to get that extra $10k back? Not a chance as the value erodes from MSRP. Car and Driver's estimate was around $62k (slighter higher than my guesstimate of $60k) though others have said $70k-$75k. While their is use of exotic materials, carbon fiber was used in the Z16 Z06 for a small upcharge. If the Z06 was to be a 1500 unit a year car then, yes, the price would be much higher. If GM raises the price to the $70k+ range they will not be able to maintain the production numbers of the C5 Z06 and we'll likely see the Z06 drop from production if it's not making money.

Do a search through the forum and you'll see complaints about the $65k base price for the new C6 before pricing was released. Don't get caught up in the rumor and speculation and have faith GM will do right with the pricing.

Leon

 

[Z06 Tom]

Dealer markup is temporary and doesn't really factor into what the car is worth. You think someone selling their 1 year old C6 is going to get that extra $10k back? Not a chance as the value erodes from MSRP. Car and Driver's estimate was around $62k (slighter higher than my guesstimate of $60k) though others have said $70k-$75k. While their is use of exotic materials, carbon fiber was used in the Z16 Z06 for a small upcharge. If the Z06 was to be a 1500 unit a year car then, yes, the price would be much higher. If GM raises the price to the $70k+ range they will not be able to maintain the production numbers of the C5 Z06 and we'll likely see the Z06 drop from production if it's not making money.

Do a search through the forum and you'll see complaints about the $65k base price for the new C6 before pricing was released. Don't get caught up in the rumor and speculation and have faith GM will do right with the pricing.

Leon

Exactly, well said Leon! Not to mention the fact that there are many dealers around who will not put a car over sticker, no matter what it's "Availability" is. I bought my '01 Z in late September of '00. Many dealers around Columbus, Oh. were marking up the new Z from 3-5G. Bobby Layman Chevy sold me mine at sticker. They have a policy of never selling a care above MSRP. If you have your heart set on getting a '06 Z as soon as it comes out, you just have to do your homework and find the right deal. Not to mention the fact that you should remember the dealers that try to stick it to you on the hard to find vehicles. Don't buy your next pick-up from them!!!ad

 

[OLDGOAT]

No matter what the actual price of the Z06 I'd say two things will be true: First, it will be worth it and second, it will be a heck of a big step up in cost from even a fully loaded C6-possibly twice as much as a base coupe plus Z51. Twice the car? Probably more. The thing that interests me is that the new Z06 seems less like a upgraded version of the base "Corvette" and more like an entirely new supercar. I'd personally like to see GM come out with a enhanced C6....as the C5 Z06 was an enhanced C5. This could be a base C6, strengthened steel frame ( if necessary ) Z51 tires and brakes with none of the exotic metals, carbon fiber etc that add so much cost. Add the 427 at 450hp. Perhaps sell it as a $8000 option or thereabouts. This way there would be a step in between the base C6 and the clearly supercar Z06. The buyer would get a "special" Z51 with the 427. Just a thought anyway...call it SS427-that's kinda neat sounding. Seems to me that GM would sell thousands of this flavor while the much higher priced Z06 will eventually run out of buyers who can afford it. My bet is that at least in the first year no Z06 will change hands for less than 100k and possibly more. MSRP? Maybe someday.

 

[kingman]

Worth stepping out for!!!!!!!!!!

I know this might sound strange but the C6 is expensive being that it's really no big deal with all of the performance cars coming out of the woodwork that can stay or beat it. The only car that seems out of the race is the Yugo!

But the C6 Z06 can be quite worth it if you decided that this is going to be a keeper. I feel the C6 Z06 is a good buy after the dealers stop with the gouging.

Alan

 

[Z06 Tom]

...My bet is that at least in the first year no Z06 will change hands for less than 100k and possibly more. MSRP? Maybe someday.

I guess we'll see. But at 100K, they won't sell. I can build a Lingenfelter C5R blocked 427 twin turbo for that and hand the new Z it's rear end. I know, you can't compare a tuner car to a factory Vette, but 100K puts the Z out of the Vette's target market. Remember, GM has the C4 ZR1 pricing to look back on.

 

[sothpaw]

production

In the latest Road&Track mag, I read the new facility where the 427 Cid motor will be assembled has a capacity of 15,000 units/year and will be making 2 other Cadillac motors. Assuming equal demand, you could be looking at 5,000 units. If the Cad's sell well, I'd say much less. Even if the Cad's bomb, I doubt you are looking at more than 6-7000 Z06's / year (C5 Z06 rate). There's just not that kind of demand for a 6 spd.