DYMAG Wheels - Would you buy a complete set, if they were made again?

[*89x2*]

I had an interesting discussion about this, on Tuesday and it could become a possibility IF there was genuine interest in the DYMAG wheel for Corvettes.

As I am sure you know they have not made wheels for Corvettes in some time and the wheel on the DYMAG site is just for reference (as it is not avail. anymore either)

I will toss out a few ideas on styles however, if you have something specific in mind, post it and I will add the choice to the thread

Also, Post what you would be looking for, such as, offsets, widths, wheel diameter, etc.

These are the lightest wheels made for the Corvettes and barely weigh more than the box they are shipped in


You can make multiple chioces in your vote - Enjoy


Here of course, is the original 17" style

and there is also the one as featured on the DYMAG site

 

[8388]

You already know my answer

 

[EricVonHa]

If they're remade again, something needs to distinguish an original collectible wheel from the new design. Because these wheels aren't in production is one of the main reasons that we're seeing such high prices on the re-sale.

Dymag would have a huge hit if they made them all over again-- even with the original design. They'd be wise to offer 18"-19" diameters also as those tire sizes are quite common these days.

 

[8388]

I think if they made a set today, weather new or old design, you wouldn't see them for less than 4k a set.

But, I thought the original design was a joint effort between Dymag and Callaway. If this is correct, you would have to have both parties in agreement in order to produce new wheels with the Callaway name. Not very likely IMHO.

 

[SurfnSun]

Id probably buy about anything they put out. Id like an OEM wheel with Callaway stamp made available, but some 18s would be SWEET.

 

[*89x2*]

Guy's, I agree, an 18" Dymag would be sweet
(But I also like the other styles greatly!!! )

Of course, the original Dymags were comissioned by Callaway for the B2K option and therefore they were embossed w/ the logo - While I would like to see that again, Callaway Cars would have to host that conversation.

The Dymags were avail. before for between 800-1000 per wheel when new, depending upon size - they are much lighter than any alumn. wheel due to the Magnesium construction


Now, After looking at the poll results, I am curious about the vote not to make Dymags for Vettes... Why?? Is it the Style, Cost, or???

Thanks for the input - ...vote on

 

[FX GS]

Ditto re: the "Callaway" stamp, would have to have them.

 

[*89x2*]

yeah, new release of Callaway wheels would be awesome!!!
Mark, Think of how light that would be for your racing (of the FXGS :eek)

The Dymag wheel tooling is roughly $30k just to make the molds :eek

This cost would have to be recognized by the person, or company that commisions the wheels - At that, thinking if the wheels were $800 per wheel, it would take 38 individual wheels to break even, past the set up costs. or about ten sets of them...

Now I have heard from owners looking for sets of them, and honestly, I would put a set on my other Vette as well 'cause they are such a nice looking wheel


...vote on

 

[*89x2*]

easy request...

Please, if your reply is that you are not interested in seeing Dymag make their ultralightweight wheels again for Corvettes, please say why...


Is it the Style, Costs, etc. :confused

Thanks for taking the time to vote

 

[TurboLuigi]

Why wouldn't the original molds still be around??? I wouldn't think they would have destroyed the original molds though there would obviously be a cost associated with tooling setup for another run and agreement/royalty split with Callaway.

I would think the biggest hurdle here is demand. Why should they have a run without knowledge of a demand for these wheels or payment to recoup their production costs.

I would love to have a set although I do really like the 3 piece OZ's on my car since they are the same as on the Speedsters. I have a feeling that if this does come through I will end up with a set which I wouldn't use (along with so many other car parts I have that just sit around). Personally, I would rather stick those $4k on a deposit for a 100+ upgrade

So who would pony up for a better intake?

-Luigi
:cool

 

[*89x2*]

Luigi, the original mold "wore out" and is no longer useable :confused

It takes about $30,000 to make a useable mold...

The second design mold though, I am not aware of anything that would prevent those being made again...


I was wondering something though about your car - As you may know, we uncovered the mystery of 8388's 91 and that is originally came with Dymags instead of the OZ's as he was previously led to believe... (he since found a set - lucky guy, that 8388 )
I was wondering if maybe yours too, could have had them originally too, since your build numbers are so close??

I wouldn't mind seeing an 18" Dymag, as it would still be leaps and bounds lighter than any comparable wheel out there

 

[Ultra Slow]

Yes and no... Not just now.

The only thing that makes Dymags worth so much are the fact they are quite rare. There are plenty of other $3000-$4000 high production aftermarket wheels that are worth pennies of their original price on resale, just as many corvettes, and some of these are nicer looking than Dymags... Just tons more of them.

Dymags are expensive right now because they are rare, not because they cost so much when new. A ZR1 was 70K new..... A Callaway even more.....Where is the resale there????? I am still waiting on that....... Dymag has resale... I hate to see that messed up!

Reproducing these wheels, just as AFS has reproduced the corvette factory 5 star, makes even the real ZR1 factory 5 star worthless in reality compared to its original price due to there being so many of them. Then add the fact that 95% of the owners do not care if its the real GM 5 star or the overweight AFS Repro for pennies on the dollar.... It is just a wheel afterall, get the cheapest you can that looks good! Look at all the Zo6 wheels.... Worthless thanks to AFS!

When you see a dymag, there is not an issue if it is an original or not... I say we keep it that way for at least a decade more.

Another good comparison to say "NO" is the 67 mid year Kelsey Hayes wheels. They are reproduced for about 1500. An original set sold for upwards of 8-10,000 until these came out... Now they are worth about 1/2 and you have to know what you are looking at to know if they were the real deal or just a 1500 set of repros.

Callaways are so low production and unfortunatly have such a poor value right now dispite their extreme rarety, that I think its best to just keep the wheels the way they are and leave them a collectors piece without devaluing them more with reproductions for less money.... Afterall the Dymags are worth a good % of the cars entire value.

I am certain there will be a day to reproduce these wheels in the future just as the mid years, the Hallibrand Cobra wheels, the Torque thrust wheels, etc.... Right now is not the time.

Callaways will have their day in the future... Unfortunatly today is not that day..... All of us owners will just have to hang on to our cars and not let them go until they have some resale... Then a reproduction Dymag will be a worthwhile piece and you will have to pull teeth to get a real callaway to put them on!

 

[*89x2*]

Ultra - Those are some great points!!!!

If an 18" Dymag came out, say, the same width as ours on the Callaways, would you tag & bag your originals (to keep them "safe" and sound) and drive on the road without fear of damage to an irreplaceable rim??

That to me, would be one prime reason for making Dymags avail. again for Vettes, maybe the open lug 17" would fit the bill as well :confused

What do you think about those possiblities??

Thanks

 

[8388]

I don't think we have too much to worry about, as far as value of the current wheels due to reproduction. As I mentioned earlier, both Callaway and Dymag would have to be in total agreedment to produce them as originals. This is not likely to happen IMO.

As some of you know, I was, and still am looking for Dymags. When I was looking for a set to go on my Aero Callaway, a set without the Callaway name would not have been sufficient, I was determined to find a set with the Callaway name on them, and was willing to pay more just to have them if I had to. This means that to a true collector or someone looking for a set or a replacement to go on their Callaway, a premium will always be paid just to have a matching set with the Callaway name on them.

 

[*89x2*]

Looks like the majority would like to se the original style resurrected while a large number of folks would like to see something in an 18" diam. taking advantage of the new tires avail today, I presume...


Thanks again for the input

 

[90 Corvette ZR-1]

If I had the money Id consider it. As long as I could get the right sizes for my car.

 

[TurboLuigi]

OK, so the guys who voted that they are not interested in DYmags please go ahead and sell your Dymags on e-bay now

Looks like a few sets will be available sooner than we thought!

-Luigi
:cool

 

[Ultra Slow]

I think that is an excellent possibility, but probably not for me personally! For me, I do not drive any of my corvettes enough to warrant having a spare set of wheels and would rather keep the current dymags on the callaways the way they are. I do have many spare sets of brand new ZR1 wheels that I have aquired over the years, all plasic bagged with the original tires, etc. One day they may be worth something, but for the going rate... They are not for sale...

If I used any of my cars for drivers and wanted to "bag" my current dymags, I would probably get some Fikse, CCW, HRE or similar style wheels over the dymags, and try and pick them up used. I am a Dymag fan like no other, but if you are talking about drivers, sheer looks factors, and have no care about resale.... These mentioned others have it over the dymags in the total "HEY LOOK AT ME" arena.

Ultra - Those are some great points!!!!

If an 18" Dymag came out, say, the same width as ours on the Callaways, would you tag & bag your originals (to keep them "safe" and sound) and drive on the road without fear of damage to an irreplaceable rim??

That to me, would be one prime reason for making Dymags avail. again for Vettes, maybe the open lug 17" would fit the bill as well :confused

What do you think about those possiblities??

Thanks

 

[*89x2*]

Ultra - I found this on a site search... while no C4 wheel weights were shown, here is a ZO6 wheel for comparison (off the same site) ...Fikse's are also listed for a comparo. Fikse FM-5 Forged/Spun 17x10 18.5 lbs

Chevrolet Corvette Z06 02 Cast/Spun 17x9.5 - 19.2 lbs

Dymag Callaway Corvette Cast Mg 17x8 - 12.9 lbs (wheel is actually 17x9.5) as no Callaway Dymag was produced in an 8 inch width...

...here is a link to wheel weights> http://www.seanet.com/~jgtang/wheel.txt

hope this helps

 

[Ultra Slow]

Thats a good link. Dymags are light... No Question about it!