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Edelbrock Vs. Holley carbs

goingballistic

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I'm torn between the Edelbrock and the Holley 750cfm carb for my build.

I'm installing an Edelbrock RPM AirGap intake ( 7501 ) I've read bad things about each one but more "negative" comments about the adjustment of the Holley as opposed to the ease of adjustment on the Edelbrock. Knowing many of you have takes on both sides of this can someone chime in with their experience with each manufacturer with such things as reliability, adjustment, installation, longevity etc.

thanks and much appreciated before I spend more cash.................I think my wife is gonna kill me with this build............I told her to just bury me in the vette BUT at least wait until I finish it :D
 
I personally like the edlebrock for 1 reason.
Its easier to tune/fix ect.. You get fast customer service too.
Holleys out perform them so its really a matter of what you want lol.
And there are more specialties out there on the market for Holley.

Your running a 383 stroker correct? I'd put a Holley on it and perfect the tuning.
I think it will out do the edle, JMO
 
i'll toss in a third. Barry Grant. it can be a pita to adjust, but its the only carb i've ever tried to adjust, so maybe its just me.
 
I don't have any experience with either, but I like the metering rods of the Edel better than the power valve of the Holley.

Honestly, the carb you select will not make much of a difference, just be prepared to educate yourself on how it works and what the adjustments really do. They each have their advantages and disadvantages.
 
I really appreciate the insight, exactly what I'm looking for. I really do not want to screw around with the carb which is why Edelbrock came into the equation in the first place, I heard they are easier to "play" with than the Holley. I was originally leaning very heavily to the Holley as I have some experience with them but overall was not happy with the monkeying around aspect of the carb.

Keep 'em coming.....god I love this forum.
 
I've had good experience with Edlebrook carbs and intakes. No leakage & no problems in 10 years.:)

57 Chev.
68 Mustang
68 Firebird
 
My Edelbrock ran right out of the box. resetting idle mixture was allit needed. NO LEAKS like Holleys.
 
I am not a fan of Holleys. The quality control sucks and at 2 out of 3 have a problem. Of the last 3 that I bought 2 were total disasters.
They are also too rich out of the box and I do not mean main jetting.That is the last thing you should try leaning out. The idle circuit and the transfer slots are too rich.
That said I only use holleys because I know them. If I get a new carb I spend about 1 full day stripping it down, remachining the gasket surfaces and checking everything including leaning it out.
The edelbrock would be my choice if you don't want to spend alot of time getting the holley to work.
Done right they can give lean cruising with quick richening for power.
My 2 850 double pumpers give me 15 mpg.
 
I've used both, and prefer the holley. It will out perfrom the edelbrock, and have not had any of the leak problems others talk about. Once you tune the holley to your engine, you should not have to keep fooling with it. Mine has
gone nearly 10,000 miles with no problems, and I haven't touched it again. The edelbrock will work nicley out of the box, and gave me better gas mileage, but I didn't build it for economy.
 
Well sombody has to say it........ Q-Jet!!!

Properly re-worked is a good carb for a daily driver and they will Deliver performance without Fuel leaks or constant "tinkering"

Winter Cold starts, Summer rush hour traffic or 1/4 mile runs the Q-jet gets the job done!!!
 
I agree, the Q-jet is the best all around carb. I had a Holley and they are a pain to work with. You will wind-up with many , many "kits" that you have to buy, when all you want is one item in the kit. The gasket replacement kits are grouped together and the prices are out of site for what you get.

I went back to a Q-Jet and I have NOT had to screw with it and my hands do not smell of gasoline.:D
 
I agree 100% on the Q-Jet, glad someone mentioned it! I've only had one Holley but it was nothing but trouble............I gave it away to get it out of my garage!
 
OK I know its too late to comment, but I have to defend holley, I had a 750 mechanical on my truck, and I have a street annihalator 670 vacuum secondaries on my Corvette, and they both perform flawlessly. I get 18 mpg on the highway and 13 around town which I consider pretty good for a carbed 350.

:)

Richard
 
carbs

I just replaced my carb on my 80 vett. This is a true story;At first I bought The Direct replacement HOLLEY carb;first of all;it wasn't exactly a direct replacement,some mods required;but anyway,got it on and had to fu-k with it for a long while,finally got the thing runnin and didn't like it one bit,SO I took it off, brought it back to where I bought it,and traded it for the Eldlebrock Quadrajet.It was a little more money,but I sware,I put it on(which took about an hour total)and the son-of-***** ran dead nuts right out of the box.A couple of tiny adjustments when it broke in and it runs like a clock.Couldn't be happier.Best investment I made so far on the car!!!!! :dance
 
Just used an Edelbrock to replace the pos thermoquad on a '74 Challenger. Mounted easily and the car ran perfect. Only had to set the lean / rich and adjust the idle. No problems at all. Holleys are fine also, you just need to know what you are doing. I didn't, so I bought the Edelbrock.


Good Luck.

Dino
 
My Q-Jet is a Edelbrock and the same story. Out of the box and it runs like a charm.:upthumbs
 
Die Hard Edel AFB (Performer) Fan - May have to use PIPPED Holley now...

Good comments on the "Quadrajunks" - the design is a decent reliable one frequently overlooked, even though they have more than sufficient fuel enrichment systems and are available all the way up to 795CFM, IIRC. As with most of their products, I'm sure the Edlebrock manufactured version is even better than the originals, just like with their AFB line.

I have been an AFB freak since I put the first on on one of my heaps ten years ago. Available in 600, 750, and now a new version with adjustable secondaries at 800, the design is robust and most importantly very tolerant of overcarburetion. Since it doesn't have really mechanical or vacuum secondaries, but an on-demand arrangement you can safely put on a big enough carburetor without worrying about carefully matching the normal air flow resulting in stumbling and other problems (which is critical with the Holley design.) Basically, you pick an AFB up out of the box, whether 600, 750 or 800, plop it on anything from a stock Mopar 318 to a Caddy 501 to a higher end 413 small block and the SOB fires up and runs great with no further adjustments. You just can't do that with a Holley design. I don't even do anything with the choke other that wire it full open - and it starts fine in the abominable 30 degree Dallas "winters." :L

Adjusting them is super easy and quick and there are no parts to screw up or gas to drain all over yourself. Nor have I ever had one leak. As there is no "power valve" enrichment portion, a backfire doesn't make most of your carb cease to function as it does with an unimproved Holley.

Many complain the AFB's two sidemounted fuel bowls, as opposed to the fore and aft ones on a Holley design, are better for the g-forces on straight line acceleration but can run out under hard cornering. I have yet to observe this, but always used the spring loaded "off road" (four wheeler) needle and seat setup instead of the stock ones or the high flow ones - plus I set the floats at the top end to 1/16" higher as the AFB design does not flood too easily.

Bear in mind the Carter AFB and Edelbrock Performer are essentially the same thing and many components are completely interchangeable - the Carter uses three step metering rods instead of two step, but they work in either. I think Carter is a wholly owned subsidiary of Edelbrock now anyhow.

The new AVS line from Edlebrock (Adjustable Vacuum Secondary) offers an additional adjustment to bring them in earlier or later than the preset draw-through force and counterweight arrangement of the typical AFB. They also all have dual fuel lines, unlike the regular AFB's which commonly have this as a modification. I have not used one yet.

Holley designs come in three big generations, with even more improvements between them than the AFB-Performer-AVS evolution. Ignoring the super high flow Dominator Holley design, the basic stock Holley is still probably the most common and available from 500 to 850 CFM with several options on number and size of fuel metering systems, accelerator pumps and external fuel distribution (single line, double line, etc.)

Barry Grant came out with a new Holley design, just like Edlebrock did with the Carter, and it incorporated a number of design improvements everone did to Holleys anyhow - especially power valve protection and externally adjustable float and some mixture adjustments (without requiring disassembly.) I believe they label theirs as Road and Street Demons for the regular Holley design upgrades and King Demon for the Dominator version, but I am not sure. I have not used any of them yet, although this may shortly change as my new engine (we dyno TOMORROW! YAY!!!) really needs a lot more flow than my old trusty AFB can provide.

Holley got tired of Barry Grant decimating the sales of their own design, so they came out with their own improved line - the Avengers. The Street Avenger is the only one I have any passing familarity with, although I understand their is another one also. They have all the built in upgrades to the original Holley design. I have heard good things about them, but not had any first hand experience.

Their are also a number of almost custom made carbs which have even more effective metering, flow sensing, etc. Some advertised are the DaVinci and Predator lines. The problem with some of these is the price approaches a decent entry-level aftermarket EFI system.

I am at the point of maybe having to switch from my dependable, easily adjusted AFB's since the simulators all agree with my engine builder - showing I run into max flow around 6KRPM with the new mill - and that's at optimum. I might go with the new AVS and all the flow straightener gadgetry (like the "stubstacks") which at least gives me a ceiling of 800...but an improved 850 Double Pumper from either Holley's new line or Barry Grant's might be just the ticket.

Whichever system you pick, you should be able to learn it's peculiarities and get what you need out of it - and for $500 or less - a lot cheaper than a $1250 EFI system to do. exactly. the. same. thing. ;LOL

BTW, how come every car I have uniformly gets 10MPG when every one else has a top fuel dragster that gets 17/21 highway?!?!?!?! :(
 
In California we are limited as to our choices.

One of the hindering factors on a carburetor selection for me is that in California the Smog Cops will only allow you to have certain carburetors on a street driven motor. After running the Holley replacement for the Q-Jet and the hours and wasted gas of tuning it, they said I had to have a sticker on it, that it was approved for use in Calif. I called Holley and they faxed me a list of approved carbs and a sign letter from dear Mr. G. Davis approving the Holley I was using. The Smog Shop said that was NOT good enough and I had to have a Q-Jet. I purchased the Edelbrock Q-Jet from Summit. The car passed smog both on the visual and the run test. It has always passed. I went to the Consumers Bureau of Automotive Repair and told them the story. They went to the shop and to make a long story short, I was re-inversed for the Q-Jet I had to buy. It was a blessing in disguise. I LOVE the Q-jet! The throttle response is cleaner and the mileage was improved, right out of the box.

If I lived in another state, believe me I would be running a wild cam, true LT-1 exhaust out of a set of headers, with no Cat. Filter.
 
Edelbrock vs. Holley

I've had a couple of Holley's on Camaro's and Trans Am's I've owned and once you get them tuned they perform better than Edelbrock's in my opinion. However, this past summer I installed the new Edelbrock 650 (I think it's called the thunder series) on my 81 Vette and with very little adjustment it's run very well. I'm really pleased with the carb. and I recommend it.
Installs in about a half hour too.

Vette333
 
I think another major consideration should be how Holley has packaged it rebuild packages. You have to buy the kit for serveral carbs to fix the one you have. Great for them, but you wind-up with extra parts and you pay the price for them. They and Goodyear have too many customers to care for the little guy anymore. I will not support them in the future.:beer
 

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