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yellowvette94

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1994 yellow coupe
I have a 94 vette, it seems when i go to start the engine it will turn over but not start, it may take me 5-6 times of trying to crank it to get it to start, then sometimes it runs fine other time it bogs real bad but then rpms go way up then runs fine.I replaced the regulator and the fuel pump.It has died on me while driving, but started right back up. Thanks for any help..............


Yellowvette94:W
 
Do you get black smoke when it starts?
Try starting with your foot on the accelerator and see what it does.
Report back
 
Why did you replace the fuel pump and regulator? Did the fuel pressure test low?
 
I replaced regulator and fuel pump, because it seemed like it was the problem, being that if the pressure was low it would not start or the pump going bad.........
 
I replaced regulator and fuel pump, because it seemed like it was the problem, being that if the pressure was low it would not start or the pump going bad.........

Seemed? Why did it SEEM that way? I gotta' ask again, Did you test the fuel pressure? A hole in the gas line (including leaking injectors) would make for low pressure, and the pump and regulator could be working fine.

If not, you either HAVE TO start there, or pay a mechanic tons of cash to do the same Fully Automatic Assault Wallet repair technique. Spray new parts at the problem, and hope to find a faulty one.

Either buy a fuel pressure guage, and do a static and dynamic pressure test, or pay a mechanic to do THAT ONLY, and post back results.

Static is 'motor off' fuel line pressure, to see 1) what it goes to, and 2) how long it takes to bleed down. I think this is what vetteos was gettin' at. If the injectors let the fuel pressure out, leaking into the cylinders, you'll have black smoke at a cold start in the am. Just like a garden hose with a leaky sprayer. With a new pump, the pressure is probably good, but you need bleed down time. Hope you still have your old pump - it's probably still good, and you can put it back, and buy the fuel pressure gauge when you return the pump..

You probably do not need a dynamic pressure test (motor running pressure), since starting up is the problem. It still is a good thing to know.

See youtube for fuel pressure test vids.
 
Seemed? Why did it SEEM that way? I gotta' ask again, Did you test the fuel pressure? A hole in the gas line (including leaking injectors) would make for low pressure, and the pump and regulator could be working fine.

If not, you either HAVE TO start there, or pay a mechanic tons of cash to do the same Fully Automatic Assault Wallet repair technique. Spray new parts at the problem, and hope to find a faulty one.

Either buy a fuel pressure guage, and do a static and dynamic pressure test, or pay a mechanic to do THAT ONLY, and post back results.

Static is 'motor off' fuel line pressure, to see 1) what it goes to, and 2) how long it takes to bleed down. I think this is what vetteos was gettin' at. If the injectors let the fuel pressure out, leaking into the cylinders, you'll have black smoke at a cold start in the am. Just like a garden hose with a leaky sprayer. With a new pump, the pressure is probably good, but you need bleed down time. Hope you still have your old pump - it's probably still good, and you can put it back, and buy the fuel pressure gauge when you return the pump..

You probably do not need a dynamic pressure test (motor running pressure), since starting up is the problem. It still is a good thing to know.

See youtube for fuel pressure test vids.



Ok i did a fuel pressure test ......engine running..38psi....engine not running.....36psi and that is where it stayed.. held
 
Ok i did a fuel pressure test ......engine running..38psi....engine not running.....36psi and that is where it stayed.. held

Both readings are too low, which makes me FIRST suspect the regulator.

Clogged filter would prevent running (dynamic) pressure from going over 40, but would still allow static pressure to go over 40. Not happenin', so filter is probably not at fault.

I think we need bleed-down times, from 36psi to 0 psi...
 

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