Cape Cod Bob said:
Interesting topic.
Put the women in with the men in Golf, Tennis, Boxing, track and field, Baseball, Football, Hockey, and everything else.
But then if we do that, very few ladies will participate. Same goes for autocrossing. The purpose of novice classes and ladies classes is to get more to participate. The ladies have the option to stay in that class or race with the men.
Funny that no one thinks anything of a woman entering into the men's class but if a guy were to go into the the ladies class....I don't think that would be allowed. Kinda like Tiger Woods competing on the ladies tour.
Couple of weeks ago I was at a 2 day event and a woman was in our run group for the 2 days. The guys went about their business, had a few laughs, and generally enjoyed the event. This female was a royal PITA. Complained about everything, whined about one of the course workers, was way too intense, and (here is the best part) got her butt kicked!
Cape Cod Bob,
You know women and men can argure agout this all day and not get anywhere. Because you believe the way you do and not much will change that. This wiil be long but something Id like to express here.
I am a part owner of a large company and vice president etc. I am in what "society" calls a mans world. The challenges I have to overcome from this(opinions like yours), and do, are harder than anything most men will ever have to deal with. That makes me "stronger" to fight through it, and not let it stop me. I am the mens leader at work, and when they faulter and feel weak I have to share strenght with them to keep them going or to complete a very hard task. Ive seen women in a mans world and men. Both sides. Ive seen men cry in my office. Nothing wrong with that. Ive seen women cry in my office. Ive seen men come to work after being physically beat by there wife or girlfriend, many men actually throughout the years, it happens more than you think. Ive seen this happen to women as well. Ive been a police officer and have known the men very well that I worked next to. There feelings, views, etc. I watch, I listen and I learn. I understand the physicall differences between a man and a women, and I understand what can be equal between a man and a women. Marksmanship is another area women can be just as skilled as a man. Out of 15 men in my police academy class, two other men, fresh out of military, and I, are certified sharpshooters. I had only touched and shot a weapon only three months before entering the academy. Didnt practice as much as I should have, so I did have a great talent in that area. Mostly a male dominated arena. I only lacked in muscle strenght, but not skill. This is a physicall difference. "MY" physicall difference. The cops all knew though that it was harder to take down a female where we worked than a man, usually took two to three men to do it. (again, ruff area)So that isnt allways the case either. I had a male police officer become afraid of a situation I was involved in, after I had requested backup. I watched him come through the alley and sneak back away. He was a small guy. I never forgot that. I had to handle the situation with no back-up. I did. I had a case where I was ready to shoot a female reaching into her pants that was reported to have a knife. My seargent, a male, stood outside the home and listened to me order her to get on the ground or I will shoot. He didnt want to get involved in a shooting he said. Said I had good lungs. I took care of the situation. I have two children that I have raised from birth with no physicall help, nor any financial help at all. Man was no where to be found. I did it myself. I worked my way up from poor to now being above middle class. Own a very nice home, etc. I worked hard for every penny Ive earned. I have NEVER been married nor do I ever plan to be. A man did not support me, or pay for my assets nor anything else. I have done better than alot of men that have worked there whole lives, and still havent achieved what I have. That bothers alot of men. Ive seen it in there faces and there comments. There threatened, that somehow a women can do better than them. Your opinions and your type I have dealt with my whole life in "every" shape and form. But when the going got tough, I still was there and standing. And will continue to. The men were no where to be found. In my life at least. This isnt all men, all women, nor all situations. Just myn. People like you are the ones that make me stronger than you could ever be. Thank you for that. Its a good quality to have. So I will not change your views, but looking at my life your views do not match up to the reality. So I wonder if your just shooting off at the mouth or you really believe that your views are correct and not just based on ignorance of people and life in general and what all humans are capable of achieving, wether male or female. Fear is what you have of women. Fear youll loose the control you have over them. Fear of loosing being "in Charge" They use to years ago not want women to read books. They might actually be able to learn. Marriage papers were ownership papers. All about controling someone else that you "percieve" as weaker. Just the same as the schoolboy bully. Make themselves feel more in control of themselves, when they can control someone else. I believe a man compliments a women, a women compliments a man, some in the same ways, some in different ways. But lets take the control issue out of this and the fear that a women can have control over herself without the help of a man. Ive done it. You can join any womens event you like. I wouldnt think a thing about it. But this is my opinion. *****ing? Ive heard men ***** about how there new work shirt chafes there nipples, and how working more than 40 hours a week is just to much for them to handle, when them and there familys are in bad shape financially, etc, etc, etc. *****ing? Ive heard men ***** all the time. You need to come visit my world for a while. Reality will hit. My vette? I make the payments, and its rude when a man comes up to me and automatically assumes I couldnt buy one on my own, so must be my husbands. I had a man at a show ask me if the car was myn. I said yes. The other guy said, its probably her husbands car. I chewed about two inches off his ass. I was standing next to a guy in the gas station, and another guy comes in and says, hey man, nice vette to the guy. Are the facts straight on these views? obviously not. So mabey you should, and them, rethink your views. Not "allways" matching up to the reality of it, now is it. I am not saying that I can and will drive BETTER than ANY man out there. But I know I can learn, and improve my skills to the point that I can compete with them. Please tell me a reason why I couldnt. There is no reason. Unless I fall for the belief that I cant. Which I wont. All in the mind, .....all in the mind. Bob read a book on racing and what it takes to be good, you might be "able" to learn something.
So Cape Cod Bob, you can "suck this to"
And I bettcha the one I ordered is bigger than yours.
Teresa
Thats what this hobby is all about.
Jane Ann
