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Fuel pump help needed

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Trois Rivieres, Quebec, Canada
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63 Resto Coupe-Red 65 Roadster
I recently sold my 502, and the new owner wants me to recommend an electric fuel pump that he might use. My problem ( I'm old school ) is that I never used, or purchased one myself, and every manfacturer who is advertising them, swears theirs are the best, and the only ones I should be buying, ya right :eyerole .

I tried searching the archives, but with so much material, I will be old before I find enough time to figure it all out. The pump will be used in a low performance street cruiser, a 4000 lbs car, so I'm not looking for a high capacity , gazillion gallons per hour type of thing, just something basic, that will run the engine, and not force him to take out another mortgage.

I do appreaciate the time some of you will take to respond.

Stepinwolf
 
Honestly, I think I just got a fluke when I bought my first Holley. The replacement is working just fine and Holley covered me.

I'd buy one again. Holley 12-802-1 Electric Fuel Pump & Flow Regulator.
 
67HEAVEN said:
Honestly, I think I just got a fluke when I bought my first Holley. The replacement is working just fine and Holley covered me.

I'd buy one again. Holley 12-802-1 Electric Fuel Pump & Flow Regulator.

Bob
Off the top of my head: Didn't you figure you averaged close to 17 or 18 miles to the gallon on the BG trip? I know it was a lot better than the 10 or so you were expecting it to be!
 
Z28Canuck said:
Bob
Off the top of my head: Didn't you figure you averaged close to 17 or 18 miles to the gallon on the BG trip? I know it was a lot better than the 10 or so you were expecting it to be!

16.9 per Imperial gallon. I always try to buy Imperial gallons. I get much better mileage. ;LOL
 
67HEAVEN said:
Honestly, I think I just got a fluke when I bought my first Holley. The replacement is working just fine and Holley covered me.

I'd buy one again. Holley 12-802-1 Electric Fuel Pump & Flow Regulator.

I just had a look at the pump, and it look's good, with a price that we can live with. The only thing I am wondering about is the pressure for a 502 that is fuel injected. The ram jet version also uses a fuel return line, so I would expect that the pump needed, would have to have more then 7 lbs of pressure.

I don't have the engine here anymore, so the specs are not available to me.

Stepinwolf
 
67HEAVEN said:
16.9 per Imperial gallon. I always try to buy Imperial gallons. I get much better mileage. ;LOL

I was close! The regular unleaded gas in East Toronto this morning was $102.3 per litre!!! I got 91 octance last night for $1.117/l at dinner time (Regular was $98.2/l )!

And so Mark doesn't jump in on your mileage.... the 16.9 mpig was on Heavens' own steam, NO pushing from the support vehicle!;) :L
 
stepinwolf said:
I just had a look at the pump, and it look's good, with a price that we can live with. The only thing I am wondering about is the pressure for a 502 that is fuel injected. The ram jet version also uses a fuel return line, so I would expect that the pump needed, would have to have more then 7 lbs of pressure.

I don't have the engine here anymore, so the specs are not available to me.

Stepinwolf

Bob, fuel injection changes the picture entirely; I don't have the RamJet specs either, but I think that system requires around 40-50 psi or so, just like almost all new cars do. Don't know offhand if it has a pressure regulator on the fuel rail and a return line to the tank or if it's a "deadhead" system with no return line.
:beer
 
JohnZ said:
Bob, fuel injection changes the picture entirely; I don't have the RamJet specs either, but I think that system requires around 40-50 psi or so, just like almost all new cars do. Don't know offhand if it has a pressure regulator on the fuel rail and a return line to the tank or if it's a "deadhead" system with no return line.
:beer

John, I remember having read that the installation would need a return line, but it's the necessary fuel pressure I am not sure of.

;shrug

Stepinwolf
 
Purolator make high and low pressure pumps that are small and relatively (to Holley) inexpensive. I have been using a very dependable (double the GM spec flow rate) low pressure purolator for years. The pic shows it sitting on a rear/trans motor mount.

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As a side thought, will the 502 ram jet crate engine fit under the hood of a 66 vette (with 67 big block hood)? Just curious.


Doug
 
tigernut said:
As a side thought, will the 502 ram jet crate engine fit under the hood of a 66 vette (with 67 big block hood)? Just curious.


Doug

Not without mods to the hood, or to the plenum. However there is a fellow in N.C. who does the complete labour for around 800$, and it will then fit under a 65-67 big block hood, with out clearance problems. :)

Stepinwolf
 
Fuel injection does change the picture, here is a picture of my 76 tank after a "TPI unit" was installed:
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29.jpg

the conversion was done on a new replacement tank from an earlier C3 (the 76 had a bladder tank) by Rock Valley Antiques and was @$400. Since FI doesn't have a bowl like a carb fuel slosh and starvation is an issue and the OEMs have baffled tanks to combat this but older tanks don't. The rock Valley pump uniy has a canister around the pick up to keep the pump covered with fuel.
a real good book that deals with FI conversions can be found here from Summit it is well worth the read.
ps you will have to scroll down a ways to find the book "Chevrolet TBI and TPI engine swapping" summit part # jtr-tpi
 

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