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Does anyone know of how much power the various Dana differentials can handle? I'm currently in the process of having a 396 Stroker made to produce somewhere around 500+ hp and 470+ TQ at the flywheel. The car has an auto trans and the Dana 36 diffy that goes with it and I know that it cannot handle that much power. Can I still use the auto trans or will I have to upgrade that as well?
 
I am considering doing the same thing. I have been told that the tranny will hold and I have been told it will not. I am going to play it safe and have it beefed up.
 
Check out this thread regarding a Dana 36: Differential tough enuf?. :CAC

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The automatic will need a stout rebuild, both soft and hard parts. Youll need to find a good builder.
 
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Hey, Ken, thats some serious damage!

Do any of you have reccomendations for shops in the south eastern US? If not I'm willing to travel. I was thinking of going to MorePerformance but I do not know if they can do that kind of work. I figure that I can work the transmission now but I am not sure about the differential. I I have to get a custom one built, I want it to be able to withstand up to around 700-800 HP area.
 
I will TRY to answer your question as honestly as I can!!! It all depends on tire size and TRACTION!!! The tranny should be rebuilt using nothing but the BEST parts, same for the rear-end.Not even the best parts available are unbreakable. One must still not(drive it like you HATE it) or IT WILL STILL BREAK!!!!! But a little LUCK and anything short of down-rite ABUSE, You should be able to have LOTS OF FUN!!!!!!!!!!! Good Luck & Have FUN!!!!:D :D
 
Expect a lot of opinions, both ways.

The photo is of my stock Dana 36, an early design that came on all '84s. A tooth broke off of the pinion gear and wedged between it and the ring, which broke the case. The ring gear had only some nicks. The diffy was properly set up and maintained, despite one 'expert' opinion to the contrary.

The newer Dana 36 case is a bit stronger, but not as beefy as the Dana 44. The 44 diffys are not too hard to find, but the rear covers, with the crossmember bracket, are. Those available are not cheap!

My expert claims that the newer design, which had the internals and the case cryogenically treated, will withstand my power, which is a bit above what you expect. I am running street radials, 315.35x17", which spin at will with a 3.54 ratio. They are my 'circuit breaker'. I opted for a lower ratio, which gives more tooth contact; two, vs one in my broken 3.73.

Great gear oil, non-synthetic yields better protection, unless running long events, at high speeds, which greatly heat the lube. In that case, a synthetic is probably a better choice of lube. I considered the extra heat from my 3" exhaust, which runs right under the diffy; then chose Lucas Heavy Duty 85/140 gear oil. www.lucasoil.com/

A great shop can give you specifics, as tooth contact depth and area varies not only with ratio, but by manufacturer.

Abuse, as noted above? << all bets are off.

Note that experts and not, all over the country, claim both ways. Some claim neither diffy will stand the power, no matter what. Others aver that either, properly done, will do fine.

Been there....... Never found a reasonable 44 package, hence, my choice.
 
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I've been looking around and I found this article on http://vette.ohioracing.com/axle.html

Stiffening The Dana 44 Rear End

Thanks to the abusive way Justin Vandersall punishes his car some very valuable lessons were learned. The main lesson is that the Dana 44 rear carrier assembly will break in major horsepower applications, 450 HP and above. The carrier has a tendency to break anywhere in the support beam from the support points near the wheel to the edge of the differential housing. The carrier beam resembles an I-beam with the differential housing in the center. To stiffen the carrier beam up I had 1/4" structural grade aluminum plates welded on the front and back of the carrier I-beams all the way across up to the edge of the differential housing. This basically changed the I-beam to a large square tube, which is much more rigid in torsion.


Is this true? I was hoping that the dana 44 could take more than 450 hp. I got a price for a complete dana 36 to 44 swap from http://www.ikerds.com and thought that it would be all that I need. Oh, well, I suppose I will need to have the parts treated cryogenically and maybe strengthened with some more metal as the article suggests.

Thanks for all of your help so far! This is where saving that extra parts money + 20% helps.
 
Ken, have you had any personal experience with the dana 44 rear end breaking with your current engine setup?
 

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