How will the C-6 Vette Stack up

[F22Ace]

how do you think it'll do against the competition IE Viper lambourghini etc etc

 

[LongTimer]

Just read a post on another site (sorry Rob, this is a great site - my favorite, but I'm always lookin' around) from a BGVETTE (address is Bowling Green, KY). He claims that as of today, the first year C6 will be introduced with NO CHANGE IN DRIVE TRAINS FROM C5. I find this very disturbing. It could mean we will see the LS1 as a standard engine and the LS6 as an extra cost option and the new LS2 & LS7 may be a year away. If this is true, the C6 will be a VERY BIG DISAPPOINTMENT TO ME - and to answer your question, the C6 would perform about the same as the current Z06 does - if it is not fitted with the new engine.

 

[Tuna]

Assuming the C6 gets the aluminum chassis and loses 200# compared to the C5, it will perform better than the C5 even with the same drive train. It will not be a Lambo beater - at least not yet.

Check out the June issue of Motor Trend and see how the 03 Z06 compares to 9 other hot cars (truck). That will give you an idea of where the C6 needs to go to compete with the high dollar cars.

 

[CFour]

C6 will not have an alloy frame the first two model years. It will get one down the road as will XLR. Don't count on C6 having a LS1 unless there is a serious problem with the new motor and they are holding it back. You will see the Cadillacs 5 speed auto in C6 as well. They also could just make the ZO6 motor the standard setup and the 6.0L LS2 could be reserved for the next ZO6.

 

[corvettecrazy]

according to the car and driver in which I recieved today the vette will start out with a 6.3 liter (bored out) V8 pumping in the range of 450hp and 450lb/ft or torque.

the structure will be hydrogormed side rails cast Al subframe and a steel back bone, most which remains largely unchanged. will have the C5 suspension also with magnetic ride control avaible.

right from car and driver so dont kill the 2nd messanger

 

[LongTimer]

according to the car and driver in which I recieved today the vette will start out with a 6.3 liter (bored out) V8 pumping in the range of 450hp and 450lb/ft or torque. ... right from car and driver so dont kill the 2nd messanger

Kill the messenger!?? You should be rewarded, and I should have learned by now how much mischevious misinformation is out there about the C6. Of course, just cause C&D says so, doesn't make it so, but I am encouraged again that the C6 won't be delivered with an LS1.

Just read of a parking lot conversation Hill had with a group of owners where he stated that the LS1 & LS6 end as vette engines with the C5. Cfour, that would mean that the CTS-V is really getting a hand-me-down engine that won't be offered in the vette going forward. That's even more removed from the vette than when the F bodies offered the detuned LS1.

 

[corvettecrazy]

Kill the messenger!?? You should be rewarded, and I should have learned by now how much mischevious misinformation is out there about the C6. Of course, just cause C&D says so, doesn't make it so, but I am encouraged again that the C6 won't be delivered with an LS1.

aww come on you cant kill a kid who want to design a C7 or C8. maybe I could be the first one in GM to really listen to what the drivers of the corvettes want therefore creating the best corvette ever!!!( of the future because some past ones are too nice to complain about)

i think 450hp is sort of low for a 6.3L pushrod V8 but maybe they will be able to bump the power by alot in the first few years of production.

 

[kingman]

Let's Get Real!!!!!

The C6 is going to cause a lot of attention in the US media, just because it's new. It will sell because there are enough people out there who want to be the first on their block to have it first.

They really do not care how fast it goes, or how it corners or how it performs. All they care about is that it's cool!

As far as the fit and finish is concerned, they don't have a clue, just as long as they can afford it.

GM, will wait a couple of years until the real corvette owners move up and then give them a reason to take the leap. Like more performance and quality.

The only real reason to move up to a C6 is if GM decides to up the ante with world class performance at a discounted price.

By the way, the fit and finish of a C4 & C5 is on par with a Yugo!
l know l'm being tough but l was just in a friends new Honda Civic and l was amazed at the fit and finish, not the performance.

Before l step out for a new vette they are going to have to give me a whole lot of quality upgrades.

Maybe we are too forgiving with the Vette with all of it's problems!

Anyway that's my two cents

Alan

 

[Sportscarnut]

kingman,

To some degree I agree with you regarding some people who buy the new Vettes. I've loved Vettes since I was a kid. My Dad had a 62, my best friends Dad had a 63, when I got to high school, my best friend had a 69. I couldn't wait until I could afford to buy one for myself, and I never cared what it would look like or how fast it was compared to other cars because Vettes are always great looking and get with the program.

I've always believed the Corvette is pound for pound the best performing car on the road for the money, and that hasn't changed in my mind from the first day they came out.

I bought my first Vette in 84 (the new C4), I went mad and bit myself, I loved that car!!

I bought my second Vette in 97 (the new C5), I went mad and double bit myself, shoot, I thought I was in heaven!!

I will buy the 2005 C6 and be proud to be one of the first guys on the block to own it, and I don't care what engine they put in it, I want one!!

 

[LongTimer]

Sportscarnut, I too have loved vettes since my first ride in '58, but I guess I'm pretty careful with my money. I've driven nothing but vettes since '76, but when the C5's price moved close to (now over) 50 large, I became very picky. I told myself that I would sell my '87 (owned since new) when I could get 400+HP in a Targa Top. So I still wait for Hill to deliver. IF GM presents us with a C6 with only an LS1 or LS6, I will buy a low mileage, used C5 and supercharge it. I'm tired of waiting.

 

[SlowRide]

maybe I could be the first one in GM to really listen to what the drivers of the corvettes want therefore creating the best corvette ever!!!

Unfortunately, it doesn't matter if you designed the baddest Vette to grace the assembly lines at St. Louis and Bowling Green combined. Unless upper management at GM is convinced that the car is worthy of production (and their market strategists whisper in their ear that it will definately sell) it will never get further than concept. So many wonderful redentions of the next "Corvette" have been sketched and modeled in the Development Studios yet no permission was given to go outside the box in terms of the final product, just great concepts.

Had GM listened to their designers and past engineers we might have had something like this attached picture.....a mid-engine, superlight Corvette. The kind that Duntov begged, argued and basically demanded GM to build for many years.

 

[corvettecrazy]

Sportscarnut : you are the kind of people GM relies on to make their sales budget in the first year or so of production.

slowride: maybe by the time I get there the management will smarten up, and give feed back and accept that times are changing

 

[Edmond]

How will C6 stack up? I don't think GM is even thinking about that aspect of the car. I think they're too high on their horses to consider that there's a challenge to the Corvette.

Viper? Nah, GM says Viper is too expensive.

Lambo? Nah, same thing as Viper.

Mustang? GM claims Mustangs aren't in the same class of cars. Maybe it's not, everyone has their own opinion. But I can tell you this, if someone just wanted the car for straighline performance and saw close numbers, they're going to spend less for the Mustang and do a few mods.

 

[Sportscarnut]

Yup, you guys are right. I'm dammed if I do, and I'm dammed if I don't.

I completely understand why some of you are holding out for the ultimate Vette, but I'm so addicted I simple can't help myself.

I won't pay 90k for a Porsche or NSX, they're not worth the money in my mind. So the Vette is a great alternative, with class. I raced the 90k alternative cars many times with my C5 and ****ed off their owners because they couldn't shake me, I love it, an American car at half the price!!

Oh well, GM's going to play me like a puppet. But this puppet is going to have some fun!!!

 

[C5Pilot]

Unfortunately, it doesn't matter if you designed the baddest Vette to grace the assembly lines at St. Louis and Bowling Green combined. Unless upper management at GM is convinced that the car is worthy of production (and their market strategists whisper in their ear that it will definately sell) it will never get further than concept. So many wonderful redentions of the next "Corvette" have been sketched and modeled in the Development Studios yet no permission was given to go outside the box in terms of the final product, just great concepts.

Had GM listened to their designers and past engineers we might have had something like this attached picture.....a mid-engine, superlight Corvette. The kind that Duntov begged, argued and basically demanded GM to build for many years.

Naw, I wouldn't want one of those. No room for the golf clubs. It probably doesn't even have cup holders.

Doc

 

[ROCKETBLOCK]

Naw, I wouldn't want one of those. No room for the golf clubs. It probably doesn't even have cup holders.

Doc

I'll go along with that!!!