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i have read alot of other threads on this but not sure they fit mine? o.k. if my vette sets all night and all day, just turn key and its running like asap. but like today, this morning (05:30) started right up drove 20 miles to work. then sat all the way to lunch at 11:00 and took longer to start. ate lunch went back to vette and same thing longer start time so just touched gas pedal and started right up? dose this still sound like leaking down injectors? has a new fuel pump. just tuned up 500 miles ago. i am thinking that 4lb psi oil perssure relay or maybe fuel pump relay, but it dose start and i hear fuel pump as soon as i turn key on. oil perssure relay were is that? i am not that worried yet its almost 20 and still starts, but if its something like old relay its worth a try?
 
anybody think this could be a starter going bad?? and not a fuel problem?
 
Mine has the same problem. Overnight and it starts as soon as the key is turned. After running it, it takes a longer crank to start. Maybe 3 seconds. I've read where the coolant temp sensor could be the culprit. If it's ohm's are off, it tells the ecm it's colder then it really is so it "floods" the engine. I changed my CTS, did a full tune up ie: plugs,wires,rotor,cap and coil. Also set the parameters on the TPS and IAC but it still does it.
My next check will be the o2 sensor but I have my doubts that that is the culprit. As to the injectors leaking, I had mine checked last week as well and they were fine. We both apparently have a "ghost" gremlin somewhere. At least you know NOT to change what I have already. If I figure it out, I'll let you know....:)

Len:w
 
it is the fuel pump...........had same thing over a period of time, changed and viola!!!!...well, at least with an lt1 ..............
 
Found this on my ALLDADTA site

Fuel System - Long Crank Time




Number:88-382-6E

Section:6E

Date:DEC., 1988Subject:LONG CRANK TIME

Model and Year:1985-88 CAMARO, CORVETTE WITH 5.7L (VIN CODE 8) ENGINETO:ALL CHEVROLET DEALERS

Some 1985 through 1988 Camaro, Corvette models equipped with 5.7L (VIN 8) engines may experience long cranks when attempting to start the vehicle after soaks longer than 30 minutes. There are several possible causes of this condition. These include but are not limited to:cold start injector not operating; fuel pump check valve, fuel pressure regulator or fuel injectors leaking down fuel pressure on shutdown.



Diagnosis

Diagnosis should begin by performing the "Cold Start Valve" test listed in section 6E3 (Chart A9) of the appropriate Service Manual to determine if the cold start injector is functioning properly. If not, the appropriate repairs should be made.

If the cold start injector system is found to be functioning normally, the following procedure should be used to determine whether a fuel pump check valve, fuel pressure regulator, or leaking injectors are the cause of the long cranks.

1.Install a fuel pressure gage on the fuel rail schraeder valve, (such as that supplied in the injector plugging test kit).

2.Pressurize the system by cycling the key on for a few seconds.3.Turn the key off, and time the pressure reduction on the gage. (Initial pressure should be approximately 40 pounds per square inch (PSI), note the time it takes for a pressure drop of twenty PSI to occur. If the time exceeds twenty minutes, check valve, regulator, and fuel injectors are free of excessive leakage and the Service Manual should be be referred to for other causes of long cranks.)

4.If the system pressure is reduced by 20 PSI or more in 20 minutes or less, then one or more of the three components mentioned are suspect.

5.Turn the key on for a few seconds to repressurize the system and clamp the rubber portion of the supply line closed using a pair of vise grips and a shop towel (to protect the fuel line from damage by the vise grips.)

6.Turn the key off, and again note the time it takes for a reduction of twenty PSI. If the time is a lot longer than the time noted in step 3, then replacement of the fuel pump is indicated.7.If the times are similar, then repeat steps 5 and 6, only this time clamp the return line instead of the supply line. Once again note the time it takes for a twenty PSI pressure drop. If the time is a lot longer than previously, a faulty pressure regulator is indicated. If the time remains shorter than twenty minutes, leaking injectors are suspected. To confirm that there are leaking injectors, raise the fuel rail slightly out of the inlet manifold without disconnecting any fuel lines and place a small napkin or piece of paper under each injector. Pressurize the system by cycling the key on for a few seconds then turn the key off and allow to sit for about 10 minutes. If a leaking injector is indicated by one or more drops of fuel on any of the napkins, all eight injectors should be replaced with service injector, P/N 10108481.
 
i just put in a new fuel pump when i had to replace the rusted out fuel sending unit. and i have tried one test, when i got the long start, hit the gas pedal and that dose not help it start quicker.
 
I've got a fuel pressure gauge if you want to try the leakdown test, but IMHO if it starts fine when cold then that's not it. I'd have to look up the CSI test.

Sorry; I mis-understood your issue when you were explaining it this afternoon.
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rich

thanks i have a fuel pressure gauge too, i need to do it next.
 

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