1KULC7
Well-known member
First let me say, I am a member in good standings, next let me give you an example of something that happended just last night, and I posted the following on the NCRS Board....
" Last night on Ebay I watched a auction for an "orginal" Air Cleaner Chrome Wing Nut for a 63 Chrome Air Cleaner go for almost $80.00. Now I am trying to restore a 63 coupe, and trying to stick by the NCRS JG, but, is this a waste of money? Now my car has not been judged, and I am trying hard to purchase the correct parts, most being reproductions, but is the judging to a point you spend 80.00 for a wing nut? If so, I think this is ridiculous. I have read many things about the Lacquer vs. Clear Coat, all the date codes, the issue with buying repro tires, even down to the wheels on the inside with a slide curve... Is it only me or are some of these rule a little wacky??? I don't want to be a party pooper, and am trying really hard to do the right thing, but if I spend $80.00 for a dumb wing nut because the repro thickness is a little thicker, then in proportion the car will cost over $500,000 to restore to top flight....is the NCRS going in the right direction...please don't flame, as I am not trying to water down the rule or the judging, but just trying to understand how one takes a car that was one step from being destroyed for ever and bringing back to showroom condition, when you are not a millionare, but still want to belong to NCRS and feel good about the thousands of dollars spend on the car to save it....does this make sense? "
OK, so my point is this. If the NCRS is the "RESTORATION" Society, then why do they come down so hard on reproduction parts? Why are they forcing people to pay so much for a single little piece of hardware, just to save a point? It seems to me the only cars that are getting Top Flights, are the ones being sold to other parties, who just have them judged, get another top flight and sell to another person who does the same thing....
What about the real meaning of NCRS which is to save the Corvette on the brink of being destroyed, lost forever. Shouldn't people like this (I admit I am one of them) be rewarded for taking a car that was on its last legs, and bring it back to showroom condition or even better then showroom condition. Why be penalized if you use a reproduction part that is they bearly differs from the original to the point you can't tell the difference.
I understand the need for these car to remain as close as possible in every way to the original, but now if you need a paint job, Lacquer is illegal, using base and clear provides a better look and more durable coat, yet you get penalized, and on top of that, somebody comes up with a hairbrain scheme to have the base/clear "look" like lacquer, and to the point of not flat sanding it, not fixing the gaps, leaving runs on the paint, just to make it look like the crumby job the factory did? This makes no sense to me to spend thousands of dollars for body and paint work only to make it look like crap, so you don't loose points?
I just don't understand the thinking of NCRS, again I am not flaming, just trying to understand whay an organization formed to promote the restoration of the Corvette also has rules impossible to follow to earn top flight if you don't own a car that was mint to begin with, or stored for years, or never used, or came off the museum floor....so the guy (like myself) going through hell to get the car done right, following the rules, but when needs a part has to choose repro vice original because of the outragious prices of original parts (some of which I think are repros anyhow) will never get flighted because you restored the car with repro parts...what happens years from now when the original parts dry up?
Again seems to me the guy who saves the Corvette from being destroyed, and restores it using repro parts should be award as much as the guy who buys a Corvette from a guy who stored it for 30 years....
I guess even in this hobby MONEY TALKS....
Sorry for rant, but this has been bothering me for a long time....
" Last night on Ebay I watched a auction for an "orginal" Air Cleaner Chrome Wing Nut for a 63 Chrome Air Cleaner go for almost $80.00. Now I am trying to restore a 63 coupe, and trying to stick by the NCRS JG, but, is this a waste of money? Now my car has not been judged, and I am trying hard to purchase the correct parts, most being reproductions, but is the judging to a point you spend 80.00 for a wing nut? If so, I think this is ridiculous. I have read many things about the Lacquer vs. Clear Coat, all the date codes, the issue with buying repro tires, even down to the wheels on the inside with a slide curve... Is it only me or are some of these rule a little wacky??? I don't want to be a party pooper, and am trying really hard to do the right thing, but if I spend $80.00 for a dumb wing nut because the repro thickness is a little thicker, then in proportion the car will cost over $500,000 to restore to top flight....is the NCRS going in the right direction...please don't flame, as I am not trying to water down the rule or the judging, but just trying to understand how one takes a car that was one step from being destroyed for ever and bringing back to showroom condition, when you are not a millionare, but still want to belong to NCRS and feel good about the thousands of dollars spend on the car to save it....does this make sense? "
OK, so my point is this. If the NCRS is the "RESTORATION" Society, then why do they come down so hard on reproduction parts? Why are they forcing people to pay so much for a single little piece of hardware, just to save a point? It seems to me the only cars that are getting Top Flights, are the ones being sold to other parties, who just have them judged, get another top flight and sell to another person who does the same thing....
What about the real meaning of NCRS which is to save the Corvette on the brink of being destroyed, lost forever. Shouldn't people like this (I admit I am one of them) be rewarded for taking a car that was on its last legs, and bring it back to showroom condition or even better then showroom condition. Why be penalized if you use a reproduction part that is they bearly differs from the original to the point you can't tell the difference.
I understand the need for these car to remain as close as possible in every way to the original, but now if you need a paint job, Lacquer is illegal, using base and clear provides a better look and more durable coat, yet you get penalized, and on top of that, somebody comes up with a hairbrain scheme to have the base/clear "look" like lacquer, and to the point of not flat sanding it, not fixing the gaps, leaving runs on the paint, just to make it look like the crumby job the factory did? This makes no sense to me to spend thousands of dollars for body and paint work only to make it look like crap, so you don't loose points?
I just don't understand the thinking of NCRS, again I am not flaming, just trying to understand whay an organization formed to promote the restoration of the Corvette also has rules impossible to follow to earn top flight if you don't own a car that was mint to begin with, or stored for years, or never used, or came off the museum floor....so the guy (like myself) going through hell to get the car done right, following the rules, but when needs a part has to choose repro vice original because of the outragious prices of original parts (some of which I think are repros anyhow) will never get flighted because you restored the car with repro parts...what happens years from now when the original parts dry up?
Again seems to me the guy who saves the Corvette from being destroyed, and restores it using repro parts should be award as much as the guy who buys a Corvette from a guy who stored it for 30 years....
I guess even in this hobby MONEY TALKS....
Sorry for rant, but this has been bothering me for a long time....
