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C6 'Vette Schedule Revealed

One of the most important of those launches - from a prestige, rather than volume standpoint - will be the next-generation Corvette, known internally as the C6. There have been countless rumors in recent months, along with a few spy shots, and not all that hitting the media is close to accurate, General Motors officials insisted during a series of interviews at the Vette's 50th anniversary bash in Nashville last weekend.

Those involved in the project were relatively tight-lipped, though some details did emerge, including the C6 roll-out schedule, which will start with a media preview at the Detroit Auto Show next January. The next-generation coupe will appear in showrooms at the start of the '05 model year, and before 2006 is out, there will be a new convertible and an updated Z06. The original plan was to have the coupe out in fall 2003 as an '04, but spending cutbacks following 9/11 put things on hold. That wasn't necessarily a bad thing, according to Gary Cowger, president of GM's North American operations, who says it let them "put some significant tweaks into the car."

Expect "more of everything," adds GM "car czar," Bob Lutz, including a good bit more horsepower. A base 400-plus horsepower appears a certainty, and with 500 hp being the new industry benchmark, that's expected to be the Z06 starting point. "The bar has been raised" at all levels, Chief Engineer Dave Hill underscores, so even the C6 interior will have to be world-class.

Design, stresses recently retired designer Jerry Palmer, will be evolutionary, rather than revolutionary. Lutz let slip that the C6's wheels will be moved a bit closer to the corners, the goal of every sports car development team. The bottom line, says Palmer, is that the next Vette will have to be a truly global competitor, "but we always try to retain the Corvette signature inside and out." -Paul A. Eisenstein
 
Very interesting write-up. I'm so anxious to see how this C6 is going to look/perform. I'm worried that with the price quotes that I'm seeing in this forum for the C6 that I'm not going to be able to afford it.:cry Will the C6 be a $60K car at base?
 
I highly doubt the C6 will command a $60k base price, but fully optioned it should be right up there, but I do not expect it to be more than $60k its first year out.

Leon
 
I hope not. It's kind of nice having an American car that runs with (or beats) the best Foreign marques around for $50K or less. I was wondering with all of the performance upgrades that GM is planning to put in the C6, if they were planning to make us really pay for it (e.g. $60K window-stickers). One thing that I would like to see happen in the next gen. is more exclusivity (i.e. less yearly production). Somewhere around 15K cars total per year. I'm sure that would drive up cost, though.:(
 
Rob, thanks for the update - I can't wait for the C6

:w :cool
 
I think the new Camaro may be a better value?
 
hahahaha Let me correct the spin Drs. at GM "C6 Corvette was delayed because of 9/11" Yea Right. Now lets try C6 Corvette was Delayed because it was BUTT UGLY and needed a re design hence the Delay. Sorry GM we know the truth here. Funny how the Cadillac came out on time isn't it.
 
Yeah, I've heard the re-design rumors too. I think it was Lutz how commanded the redesign, and that's what delayed some of the production.

I don't doubt, however, that things have been hard with budgets at the General with the crappy economy and all.
 
:bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang
My hopes for a short '04 run and early C6 release.:r
 
If it looks good, will you buy one of the introductory year models. I'm scared to death of buying a first MY car from GM, still. The H2 is the latest example. Great looking, very capable cars, but poor quality control.
 
Well, because its really a Cadillac in a sports bra, it may not be as unreliable as the 97 C5s were. The XLR will have been in production a year before the first saleable C6s are out so this will help SOME. I still would not buy it because my 97 Vette was a real service nightmare.
 
My '98 has been fine, but I've heard several '97 horror stories too.
 
At a price tag of 60K ill never see one in my drive way. maybe a 2006 in 2010 if I get lucky. Wish list: an awesome car at about the same price, loaded coupe at no more than $48,000. I know that I am a dreamer, and I will continue too. Great info Rob. Thanks again all, love the info. Keep it coming.....
 
GM has moved the Corvette into an "unaffordable" bracket now for most working people this is a shame. Its now turned into a serious well over 50s mid life crises country club mobile. Thats why few Corvettes wave any more. I say make the car smaller again so they can't fit there fat asses in, lob off the trunk (that rear deck llid is waaay to long looking anyway) so the golf clubs can't come along for the ride and make it difficult to get in and out of. Make it more like C4 only stiffer and better. That should be enough to send them RUNNING to the local Cadillac showroom and, give us our affordable car back. Hmmmmmm just what age bracket was C5/6 designed for anyway. Let the County Club set drive the Cadillac XLR.
 
Right Hand Drive C6 & Cadillac XLR

I am a member of a Corvette Club here in Australia.
Our club has just published some info and rumours in our monthly members magazine about the C6 and the XLR.

Apparently rumours have it that the XLR may be available in Right Hand Drive and that if this happens, it will pave the way for the Corvette to be too!
I know this may be just another rumour and the Corvette is an American Sportscar, but we Aussies love them too and you have to give credit where credit is due, the Corvette is one of the sexiest sportscars available!
There would be alot of very excited Aussies waiting to get their hands on a new Right Hand Drive C6, but this will happen even if they are not available and are limited to Left Hand Drive.

Can anyone shed some light on this?

Also, another rumour is that the engine size will be between 5.7 and 6.3 litres (400 to 440 hp).
I am wondering if anyone knows what the cubic capacity of these engines are as knowing GM, we will end up with these same engines in our Holden Commodores and Monaros.
Our Commodores and Monaros have the Generation III engine in them and Holden Racing Team (HRT) has a 427 cubic inch powered Monaro due to go into production I think, with a price tag of over $200000 (Aussie Dollars).
You guys would know the Monaro as the Pontiac GTO, which has just gone on sale in the US.

We are waiting anxiously until January!

Cheers

Tony
 
StillDreaming said:
At a price tag of 60K ill never see one in my drive way. maybe a 2006 in 2010 if I get lucky. Wish list: an awesome car at about the same price, loaded coupe at no more than $48,000. I know that I am a dreamer, and I will continue too. Great info Rob. Thanks again all, love the info. Keep it coming.....

I guess I'm dreaming too because I personally couldn't justify spending money on a new car when you can get a used one just a couple of years old for much less. I've never even driven a new car in my life and I don't feel less because of it. Plucking down $60K for a car is a big thing.
 
I'm not sure I agree with all of this.
  • We can't assume the C6 is going to debut at $60,000 because the car is still in prototype stages and nowhere near production.
  • In terms of how to price the C6, or any car like the Corvette for that matter, you run a fine line between having a semi-exclusive car that you don't see around every corner, to having something like a Ford Mustang where there's at least 2 around every damn corner.

    I love, eat and sleep Corvette. As much as I love seeing them, I don't want to see one around every single corner, so if the sticker price of the car goes higher and I can't afford it, I don't really care. Hell, I'd love a brand new 2004 Z06, but there's no way in hell I can afford one right now. Am I griping that GM has priced the car higher than I can afford - hell no. Why? Because:

    I know that when I do see one drive by it will excite me to see it just like seeing a Ferrari blow by me and, it gives me a dream; a goal to set my sights on and work towards giving me one hell of a great feeling if and when I can acquire one.

    I live in an area where there is a hell of a lot of money - I live in the Silicon Valley of the East Coast. Ferrari of Washington is in my backyard. There are Corvettes, Ferraris, Lamborghinis, AMG Mercedes, Aston Martins, you name it - all over the place. Because the Corvette is in the price range of a lot of people in this area, there tends to be a lot of them so I get to see who's driving the C5:
  • I would not say that the C5 is falling into the hands of the country club crowd. Some C5 owners wave, some don't. Some are older guys in their mid-50s, others are younger 30-something and some are young, professional women. There is truly a wide range of C5 owners in this area from what I can tell, are from all walks of life.

    The reason why some of them do not wave is because they are totally new to the "Corvette experience". GM has built a Corvette that has acquired more national and international press and accolades than any other Corvette to come before it. As a result, it is much more attractive to a wider range of people - people who never thought of owning a Corvette and in some cases, could care less about getting involved in the hobby to the degree that they are like us, or they even care about waving at one another.

    In all honesty, I see just as many, if not more C4 owners in this area that do not wave than I do C5 owners... and I drive a C4!
  • If you want exclusivity, if you want uniqueness, if you want to be assured that every owner of the same car as you waves at you, then you pay the price for that and that's usually seen in a higher sticker price. The perfect example is Ferrari. I've seen the owner of a 360 Modena drive by and wave to the owner of an F355 and I've seen the owner of a 308 GTS drive by and wave to the owner of a Testarossa. I have never seen Mustang owners, Ford Escort owners or the owners of any mass-produced vehicle wave at one another.

On the one hand, I see some of us complaining that the C6 has become unreachable to the working class (yet it hasn't even gone into production and rumors are floating around like foul odors on a breeze), and on the other hand, I see some of us complaining that C5 owners don't wave etc., etc.

Unfortunately, you can't always have your cake and eat it too. If you want exclusivity and something that is a little unique, that attracts attention and owners wave at you all the time, you pay for it. If you don't want to pay for it, then be content with the fact that you're going to drive something that will be reachable to everyone's hands and has the potential of becoming just another Ford Mustang.

Everything that has been discussed in this thread is the perfect reason why I have been saying all along that the Corvette should become more like Porsche or Ferrari where you have 3 different models built and engineered to look and perform differently, while being obtainable to a larger group of people. Just my two cents.
 
Another interesting thing to remember with regards to pricing on the C6 is that with Cadillac sharing the R & D costs and even a portion of the production facility..

I believe the Corvette team will in fact be able to offer extremely competitive value on the new C6.

There must have been some offer by Cadillac to use the Corvette production facility and its design. You can bet the Corvette management team held out for funding to sufficently protect the Corvette performance image.

Of course the price of the Corvette will never go down (msrp) and we can expect the usual yearly price increases (3%)? thats common with almost every model in almost every manufacturers lineup.

The MSRP imho is only a part of the buying experience. What the car sells for is the real deal. If you look at todays 2003 Z06 at approximately 52 grand list. You can buy new ones for 45 or 46..g's..

Thats about the same as the 2001 Z06's when they first came out.

Bottom line..if you want to be first on the block. You have to pay for that privilage. If you can wait..then it pretty much boils down to the manufacturers raise the msrp then just increase the discount. (at least on most cars not in a very high demand)

I believe the new C6 will be a high demand product for the first and second year just as the C5 was..Then GM will come out with the Convertible and Z06 version of the C6 to keep the excitment and free press from Automobile magazines going.

Continuing to stimulate sales.

I'm not personally sure what I'm doing as I'm sure many feel the same way.

The changes to the C6 may end up being similiar to 1968 Corvette compared to the 1978 corvette. If thats the case..which my pocketbook is in someway hoping..

I'll just keep driving my extremely satisfying 2001 Corvette...with maybe a mod here or there.

As far as used vettes..I think with the right seller..its the best performance deal out there. Some Corvette owners car for their cars better then themselves..

Lots of people are going to get a lot of great deals buying used C5's as the C6 rolls out..IMHO..

The way I see it. We all win.
 
Hi Tony,

A couple of years ago I stumbled onto the Holden site and was very impressed with the lineup offered down under. You Aussies are deffinately car guys. Bringing the Monaro to the states is way overdue. I'd like to see the UTE come here too.

GM accidently posted a power train list several months ago that included the 6.0 liter (368 CID) LS2 and a 6.4 liter (393 CID) LS7
engines that we are safely assuming to be the C6 power plants. No one has been able to pin down exactly what the Horse Power will be, but rumors have the LS2 anywhere from 415 to 430 HP, while the LS7 is rumored to be 485 to 500 HP. I don't know how to translate these to your power units of measure.

Speculation about the engines include many high tech possiblities:
1. Nikosil sleeveless cylinders - All Aluminum block of course.
2. Variable Valve timing (still only two valves per cylinder).
3. Variable Intake manifold
4. (I know there are more features so guys help here).

less likely rumors include Displacement on Demand and Dry sump librication, IMO.
 
JBsC5 said:
Another interesting thing to remember with regards to pricing on the C6 is that with Cadillac sharing the R & D costs and even a portion of the production facility..

I believe the Corvette team will in fact be able to offer extremely competitive value on the new C6.

Of course the price of the Corvette will never go down (msrp) and we can expect the usual yearly price increases (3%)? thats common with almost every model in almost every manufacturers lineup.

Bottom line..if you want to be first on the block. You have to pay for that privilage. If you can wait..then it pretty much boils down to the manufacturers raise the msrp then just increase the discount. (at least on most cars not in a very high demand)

I totally agree. I hope Cfour doesn't have some inside info about the C6 being in the 60's. If it is speculation, I disagree. Besides a dumb move by GM, in and of itsself, pricing the C6 in the 60s would destroy the performance value image that vette has had so long at a time when there is no Camaro "little brother" to settle for. They might as well pass out cards for Ford Salesmen - the Mustang guys would rejoice.
 

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