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Hi.
What is the proper spark plug gap for the LS6? I am replacing the stock plugs with NGK TR-55 V Power plugs and can not find the proper gap to set them to. Any help would be appreciated.

Cheers,

Jefe
 
I'm not sure I'd use the TR55s either, but the electrode "protrusion"...is it too much or too little?
 
Hib Halverson said:
I'm not sure I'd use the TR55s either, but the electrode "protrusion"...is it too much or too little?
HI there,
Honestly, it really depends on the year. Normally, they do NOT go far enough into the chamber. You see, as spark plug changed in the LS1, or LS6 engine, so did the ignition timing program. I did a test a while back on this plug issue, and you can see a visible difference in the distance that the plug protrudes into the combustion chamber.
So, what does this do???? Well, when you pull the electrode away from the chamber, you are effectively retarding ignition timing. This is because it will take the flame front a longer period to cross the chamber for complete combustion.
This is why the people who put them in, claim no more spark knock retard, and increase power.
They do not understand, that the timing program is directly related to the spark plugs that are in the chamber.
I cannot tell you all how many aftermarket plugs I have removed because of poor performance over time, and drivability concerns.
Allthebest, c4c5:hb
 
Honestly, it really depends on the year. Normally, they do NOT go far enough into the chamber.


I had a hunch that was it but, because I've never actually tried the TR55 in a Gen 3, I didn't know if it was too much or too little.

It's always been interesting to me that you can fuss with timing just a little by swapping around amongst plugs with slightly different center electrode lengths.

This is why the people who put them in, claim no more spark knock retard, and increase power.


Interesting. When you say "no more spark knock", you must mean at light throttle, because detonation at WOT should be addressed by knock retard. As for more power....as we both know, those people are imagining the increased power as a result of an effective decrease in spark advance.

I cannot tell you all how many aftermarket plugs I have removed because of poor performance over time, and drivability concerns.


Yeah, you can tell me.
I know exactly what you are saying. A great number of aftermarket plugs are marketed to consumers with flim-flam (Split Fire, Bosch Platinum, esp. Plus-2 and Plus-4, Champion Truck Plugs) and cause power losses and driveability quirks. Not many aftermarket plugs have any useful engineering behind them.

What's been your experience with Denso's Iridium product in Gen3s?

On the other hand, my biggest complaint with ACDelco's OE stuff is the lack of colder heat ranges for racing or very aggressive street driving.

What do you recommend in situations like that, particularly C5s with nitrous oxide injection or superchargers?
 
Hi there,
While most Nitrous manufacturers recommend a multiple ground electrode plug, to reduce ground electrode heating, there really is only what is recommended by the modification producer.
I do not have enough experience with supercharging or nitrous to effectively answer that.
Most spark knock in c5, is due to carbon buildup from the fuel formulations that are out there. Knock retard will always show up on these cars, however, those with alot of carbon buildup will not have as much, if they shorten the electrode protrusion. They are simply masking a problem, not repairing it.
Denso, who also makes GM plugs now, still does not have the Iridium protusion to correct depths, so I have not even use one.
I just give them back to the customers.
Allthebest, c4c5:hb
 
So what plug do you recommend for the unmodified Z06? For the modified Z06(heads/cam etc)?. Do you recommend a different plug for road racing vs drag events, etc? Thx, Nick
 
nbp said:
So what plug do you recommend for the unmodified Z06? For the modified Z06(heads/cam etc)?. Do you recommend a different plug for road racing vs drag events, etc? Thx, Nick
Hi there,
For a stock Z, I simply stay with stock plugs, as there is no real reason to change them.
As for heads and camshaft cars, you MUST speak with the engineers that manufacture the heads and cam, as PCM programming will always be part of the heads and camshaft mod.
They will be able to tell you the correct plugs to use.
Allthebest, c4c5:hb
 
How much of an actual change in spark timing do you think a change in center electrode length can make?
 
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Hi,
While some are on the subject of spark plugs, I was wondering if anyone had any experience with the AC-Delco rapid fire plugs. I have been debating about putting them in my 76 vette with 61,000 miles. Does anyone have any thoughts on these plugs.
 
Hib Halverson said:
How much of an actual change in spark timing do you think a change in center electrode length can make?
HI there,
Depending on length, upto 10 degrees.
Allthebest, c4c5:hb
 
trek75 said:
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Hi,
While some are on the subject of spark plugs, I was wondering if anyone had any experience with the AC-Delco rapid fire plugs. I have been debating about putting them in my 76 vette with 61,000 miles. Does anyone have any thoughts on these plugs.
Hi there,
On older Corvette, they can help smooth out idling a little bit, however, I would not expect any power gains.
As far as durability, they have been very good on car that I have installed them in.
Allthebest, c4c5:hb
 
c4c5specialist said:
HI there,
Depending on length, upto 10 degrees.
Allthebest, c4c5:hb

Did you derive that through your own testing and, if so, can you tell me more about the actual test.

If not....what was the source of the info?


Denso, who also makes GM plugs now, still does not have the Iridium protusion to correct depths, so I have not even use one.


I'm pretty sure Denso is OE on Corvette at this point so wouldn't that tend to indicate that, at least on the OE part, the protrusion is correct?
 
HI there,
Dyno testing over 2 days, all same load, throttle angle, and temperatures. The only difference was the plugs. I monitored spark knock retard, to come to my conclusions.
As far as the Iridium, they are not OEM dimensions, except for the plug thread size, and distance. Protrusions are different.
The only Denso that I have seen is exact crossreference number match.
Allthebest, c4c5"hb
 
Outstanding information in this thread. I appreciate your contribution, c4c5.

What the current OE, ACD plug PN for LS1/6?
 
c4c5specialist said:
Hi there,
There are presently 4 different plugs for different years of Corvette.
Please give me a year of the vehicle.

Can you just post all four. Some of them must be superceeded by now. I mean...isn't supercession the addiction of any self-respecting SPO employee?
 

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