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Starting the work......body off underway...long way to go

firstgear

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Well.....got busy today....I had procrastinated enough....got the garage set up...got the stuff out of there I didn't need in the "restoration garage"....got the compressor working and fired up....and am glad I have it, I had bought at an auction some air tools.....and the one I am using a ton already is the 3/8" drive air ratchet.....now that is nice and sure makes taking things apart much much easier.....here are some of the pictures...of what has occurred so far....all fasteners that come out of something are put in a baggie with a note letting me know where they came from....I try to take pictures if I can of the package of fasteners with the part they came out with, didnt always happen, but happens more than not.

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compressor has plenty of power and CFM....runs on 230 volts and places to hang the tools which makes it nice to find them......

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I am finding these shims all over the place as I take the car apart, when I was removing some bolts down under the wheel well so I could get tot he bolts that were holding the radiator frame, when I loosened them out fell a couple more shims...they were shimming the bracket for the right front bumper from the frame......

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and where I ended up today.......next weekend we go visit my dad in Virginia, so no chance next weekend, but during the Thanksgiving day weekend, I will have several days to attack again.......till then stay tuned....
 
You're going about it the right way - never trust your memory about where things go and how they came apart. :D Often pictures can help as well.

Best of luck with the project.

Rich Lagasse
 
richscorvettes said:
You're going about it the right way - never trust your memory about where things go and how they came apart. :D Often pictures can help as well.

Best of luck with the project.

Rich Lagasse
I am not going to let this group of great guys on this forum get too far away....I know I am going to need the help....one question I have is I noticed the hood brackets are put together with a pin that looks like it was smoushed on one end....how do you get that apart and more to the point, how do you get them back together? Those brakcets will need to be blasted and the powder coated (can get the powder coating done at work for free!)....is sand blasting better or what?????? There are a lot of parts that need to be cleaned and coated under the hood.....so might as well figure out now what to use to clean them.....
 
Herb, you can get powdercoating for free??!! i'd glass bead blast everything nice and clean and powder coat it all!

you might get a huge box of parts from me for powdercoating in the next few day! only kidding. :D
 
BarryK said:
Herb, you can get powdercoating for free??!! i'd glass bead blast everything nice and clean and powder coat it all!

you might get a huge box of parts from me for powdercoating in the next few day! only kidding. :D
I work for Nordson, we make powder coating equipment (electrostatic spray guns, controls and booths).....I can just go to the lab and get them coated up and baked in the oven...and not my wifes either!!!!! I told her what you did and she said that there are a lot of things I can do with my car and parts...but that freedom ends at the garage door into the house....I just know not to push my luck....
 
you just need to properly train her like i did my wife.......

opps did I say that out loud? i hope mine doesn't decide to read this thread! ;LOL ;LOL ;LOL
 
BarryK said:
you just need to properly train her like i did my wife.......

opps did I say that out loud? i hope mine doesn't decide to read this thread! ;LOL ;LOL ;LOL


No cookies for you.;LOL
 
Good luck, very exciting, brings back memeories. Lots of pictures and lots of zip lock bags will serve you well.
 
Herb best of luck with your project.

Your off to a great start with keepng it orginized.But you have to be consistant with it.

I used oversized freezer bags that you could wright on the outside with marker. I also took digital pictures of things I thought I could have problems with (wire routing and such) Every thing went into a bag.
My wife also purchased me a bunch of large rubbermade storage containers.I used them for sections,lets use engine bay area as an example. I would place all of the bags of parts i took out of the engine bay and place them in a large container called engine bay.If I had 2 engine bay containers i would lable them 1-of-2 and the other one 2-of-2 I never wrote on the containers I would place duct tape on the container and then write on the duct tape so I could use them for a different car latter on.

As things were going into a bag I would also take notice of parts i needed to order,repaint,rebuild,replate,repair and then leave a copy of what was needed in a sheet protector taped to the side of the large container.I never ordered onesy twoseys I always would keep a master list and when my order was up around $1000.00 I would place the order to take advantage of discounts.

Once I recived my order I would brake it down and then place it in the container,in the bag.I never removed anything from the bags unless it was just plain on garbage.I always kept every thing till the end so I could match up the old with the new parts I got. Once it was in the bag I would check off on the note paper taped to the side of the container that it was there.

Also anthing that had to be rebuilt ,repaired,repainted,replated was also treated the same way.I almost forgot.I had red stickers that I would use as soon as I place the sheet protector on the side of the container I would place the red sticker on it. then once all of the parts in the container were complete I would peel the red sticker off and place a green one on it. The idea of the green sticker was that once it was a green sticker I knew i never had to look in that container again until the car was to be put back together.I would also store the green stickered containers in my basement. I would also place copies of the AIM manual,or service manual,or even a copy of a vendors cataloug page when I though I would need it for reasembley.

Sounds like alot of work but its not,It really makes my project go so smooth.

I also create a project overveiw of what I am doing,I create a time line.a list of all of the areas i plan on working on,i devide everthing up into sections,make abook with all of this information in it. then I make specific action plans of what I have to do. this way I just have to follow the plan.

Also every night before i left the garage i would make a list of what I had to do so I was always working in the correct direction not wasting time floundering trying to figure out what I should do next.

Again it may seem like ai lot of work but the time I spent planning and orginizing save me hundreds of wasted hours.
 
My two cents

Herb,

Congrats on your initiative to undertake the restoration. I have no doubts what so ever, that you will receive all the help you need from various Forum members to see you through your excellent project.

One thing however I would like to recommend, is to revise your intentions regarding the use of air tools. I like most restorers, I have a complete compliment of air tools, but recently I am in the process of trying to replace all the air powered tools I have, by electrical power tools, be they battery operated or running on 110 volts.

The reason, is the cost to run them. It's illogical to run a large 3 to 10 HP compressor, in order to run a small grinder, when you can purchase an electric grinder, with variable speed, that will use only 1/10 of the energy needed to operate the compressor.

I am aware that there are certain air tools such as zip guns, etc. that cannot be replaced, but most of the air tools, have electric equivalents, that can be used in place of the air powered tools.

In using these tools, an additional side effect, is that you will be able to hear , and use the phone in your garage. :L

Good luck

Stepinwolf
 
stepinwolf said:
Herb,


In using these tools, an additional side effect, is that you will be able to hear , and use the phone in your garage. :L

Good luck

Stepinwolf
If it is my ex wife's attorney calling me to tell me that they are taking me back to court because the small fortune I gave her last year and this year isn't enough....I don't need to hear it ring....only 25 more months to go of paying off my Freedom Fund!!!!!
 
Hi Herb, you're getting into this big time! What a great winter project you'll have going and don't mind all of us watching over your shoulder OK? ;) :D . Like the others said, lots of pics as you go...PLEASE.

Great advice what the others said about the keeping organized and logging details, zip bags with notes, pics galore for detail reference later etc is a must. I saw first hand when Bob did '67Heaven like that and to the point that even right after you used a tool it went immediately back in the cabinet in it's proper place. Whenever we needed anything, he could even be under the car outa sight, he could tell you exactly where to find a tool, saves tons of time in the long run and avoids possible accidents tripping on tools or parts laying around. He was the same with his parts and to watch him look for a specific part , with literally hundreds of pieces in boxes and packages, and walk right to a pile of boxes, lift it out and remove a bag in the box to get a certain part in a few seconds was unbelievable. He knew where everything was, everything had it's place, and saved probably hundreds of hours over the project that we would have waisted trying to find things if he hadn't done it that way. Big paybacks for detail planning and organizing like this, look at Rays' fantastic wall of components the other week! I sure can't give you much mechanical advice but I can tell you when an easy system will save you time and money and help keep your workplace a safe, enjoyable place to be this winter.

Good luck with your project Herb and by the way the beer is always kept in the fridge on the second shelf, right side, cold ones to the front!:L Hope you enjoy your project, you know we sure will through your posts!:upthumbs
Doug
 
Z28Canuck said:
Hi Herb, you're getting into this big time! What a great winter project you'll have going and don't mind all of us watching over your shoulder OK? ;) :D . Like the others said, lots of pics as you go...PLEASE.

Great advice what the others said about the keeping organized and logging details, zip bags with notes, pics galore for detail reference later etc is a must. I saw first hand when Bob did '67Heaven like that and to the point that even right after you used a tool it went immediately back in the cabinet in it's proper place. Whenever we needed anything, he could even be under the car outa sight, he could tell you exactly where to find a tool, saves tons of time in the long run and avoids possible accidents tripping on tools or parts laying around. He was the same with his parts and to watch him look for a specific part , with literally hundreds of pieces in boxes and packages, and walk right to a pile of boxes, lift it out and remove a bag in the box to get a certain part in a few seconds was unbelievable. He knew where everything was, everything had it's place, and saved probably hundreds of hours over the project that we would have waisted trying to find things if he hadn't done it that way. Big paybacks for detail planning and organizing like this, look at Rays' fantastic wall of components the other week! I sure can't give you much mechanical advice but I can tell you when an easy system will save you time and money and help keep your workplace a safe, enjoyable place to be this winter.

Good luck with your project Herb and by the way the beer is always kept in the fridge on the second shelf, right side, cold ones to the front!:L Hope you enjoy your project, you know we sure will through your posts!:upthumbs
Doug

Thanks Doug....this has been a rough week.....work throughout the day has been kicking my butt so when I come home there isn't much left in MY fuel tank to want to go out in the garage and tangle with the car.....so weekends are the best bet for me....this weekend we are going to DC to visit my dad. His birthday is over thanksgiving weekend (couple years ago when he turned 80, his birthday was on Thanksgiving), but Sharon is covering for another Doc in town so we need to be here that weekend, so perhaps I will get after the car in full force that weekend.....

I am feeling my way along on this.....I have decied that I can get a relatively inexpensive sand blast cabinet on EBay for less than $200, I already have a 10 gallon blaster so I will use for the frame, but the cabinet will be best for small parts and the like.

Are you sure you can't move next door? I know that you got good experience with Heaven.....a little advice for me along the way would be great...HAHA

I will keep everyone posted for sure.....stay tuned....nothing coming from this weekend....

Herb
 

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