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Wow talk about an old thread comming back to life!

I had a guy with one of these 94 copper cars offer it as a trade for my Grand National. He ended up selling it outright. He was in MN but not sure if that is where the car ended up.

Color was an attention grabber for sure. I loved it!
 
Wow talk about an old thread comming back to life!

I had a guy with one of these 94 copper cars offer it as a trade for my Grand National. He ended up selling it outright. He was in MN but not sure if that is where the car ended up.

Color was an attention grabber for sure. I loved it!

I'm pretty sure I ended up buying that car. I seen it and loved the color. It is also my first Corvette purchase. Still in MN.
 
I'm pretty sure I ended up buying that car. I seen it and loved the color. It is also my first Corvette purchase. Still in MN.

What an amazing and historical example for your first Corvette!

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and tell us more about yourself and your 1 of 116 Copper Metallic Corvette.

:wJane Ann
 
It is interesting that this old thread has suddenly been rediscovered.

Back a ways someone asked about the only Copper ZR-1. That car was not a saleable unit and was crushed in 1994. There was one Copper, Z07, six-speed Coupe built. I road tested the car for magazine story about a trip to the Black Hills Classic in 1994. That car is now owned by a private party in Phoenix AZ.
 
..........Back a ways someone asked about the only Copper ZR-1. That car was not a saleable unit and was crushed in 1994..................

Wow! A 1 OF 1 ZR-1! I'd never heard of the Copper ZR-1. Why was it not saleable, Hib?

:wJane Ann
 
Wow! A 1 OF 1 ZR-1! I'd never heard of the Copper ZR-1. Why was it not saleable, Hib?

:wJane Ann

Twice now I've come back to this old thread. I guess I should be more responsive.
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I remember the Copper ZR-1 was a non-saleable development vehicle. I'm pretty sure it was at the long-lead press event for the 94 model year in the summer of 1993. At this point in time 20 years later, I can't remember why it was crushed other than it being a development car--could have been it was a 93 painted Copper and, thus, could not have been sold as a 94. Until he left GM, John Heinricy had the rear fascia from that car on the wall in his office at the Proving Ground.

Also, 20 years gone by makes for a lot of legend. The Copper for MY94 was GM second try at the color. Four Coupes were built in MY86 with the 66 paint code. I don't know why only four, but perhaps it may have been the same reason the color was killed a second time, eight years later. Also, I don't remember the paint as "translucent." I'm pretty sure it was a base-coat, clear-coat system, same as used on all the other cars. The copper cars were not painted by hand in fact, one reason the paint was killed a few days after SOP was that the robots in the paint shop could not apply it consistently enough. That along with the fact that the nature of the metallic used in the Copper was such that the slightest inconsistency in application resulted in a visual flaw. Worse was it was nearly impossible to fix the problem with repainting by hand after the car was built. Any car painter will tell you that certain kinds of metallic paints are hard to match.

I was at the plant on assignment for "Vette Magazine" in the Fall of 94 after they killed the color. The assignment was on BG Assembly's quality audit system and I drove a number of 94s including the only Copper Convertible with Z49 Canadian Content. I was told during the visit that all the Copper cars built to date were purchased by GM then later auctioned as used vehicles. I suspect that was all of them but not all were auctioned at the same time. As later that summer I drove the only Copper Z07 to the Black Hills Classic and back. After that, GM auctioned the car and it eventually ended up in the hands of a pal of mine who lives near Phoenix. Over the years, I've run across some of the Copper 94s and only twice, the first time was the car I road tested in the Summer of 94 and at the NCM about 10 years ago, have I seen a Copper car with all the panels matching.

In the Spring of 12 I was over to visit my friend in PHX who owns the Copper Z07. I can't remember how many miles he has on the car but it's a lot. It still looks pretty good. That was a great color.

Could it be done, today?

Sure and probably a lot easier. Problem is people just aren't into unusual colors any more.

Remember Carlisle Blue from 2012. I've never heard anyone say it's an ugly color. Everyone who sees a car painted that color says it's beautiful but Carlisle Blue only sold 3%.
 
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Sure and probably a lot easier. Problem is people just aren't into unusual colors any more.

Remember Carlisle Blue from 2012. I've never heard anyone say it's an ugly color. Everyone who sees a car painted that color says it's beautiful but Carlisle Blue only sold 3%.

I don't quite understand this reasoning. The unusual colors have always sold less than red, black, and white. You can pick any year and find that there will be the big 3 and the rest of the colors make up the rest of production. Carlisle blue is a good example. I like the color but don't personally want one. I do like Inferno Orange, Velocity Yellow, and Jetstream Blue... all of which were sub 7%-ish each for the 2011 model year. When 3 colors (red, white, and black) make up over 46% of production and you have 10 colors total... 7 colors are fighting for a piece of the other 54%.
 
Twice now I've come back to this old thread. I guess I should be more responsive.
:chuckle

I remember the Copper ZR-1 was a non-saleable development vehicle. I'm pretty sure it was at the long-lead press event for the 94 model year in the summer of 1993. At this point in time 20 years later, I can't remember why it was crushed other than it being a development car--could have been it was a 93 painted Copper and, thus, could not have been sold as a 94. Until he left GM, John Heinricy had the rear fascia from that car on the wall in his office at the Proving Ground.

Also, 20 years gone by makes for a lot of legend. The Copper for MY94 was GM second try at the color. Four Coupes were built in MY86 with the 66 paint code. I don't know why only four, but perhaps it may have been the same reason the color was killed a second time, eight years later. Also, I don't remember the paint as "translucent." I'm pretty sure it was a base-coat, clear-coat system, same as used on all the other cars. The copper cars were not painted by hand in fact, one reason the paint was killed a few days after SOP was that the robots in the paint shop could not apply it consistently enough. That along with the fact that the nature of the metallic used in the Copper was such that the slightest inconsistency in application resulted in a visual flaw. Worse was it was nearly impossible to fix the problem with repainting by hand after the car was built. Any car painter will tell you that certain kinds of metallic paints are hard to match.

I was at the plant on assignment for "Vette Magazine" in the Fall of 94 after they killed the color. The assignment was on BG Assembly's quality audit system and I drove a number of 94s including the only Copper Convertible with Z49 Canadian Content. I was told during the visit that all the Copper cars built to date were purchased by GM then later auctioned as used vehicles. I suspect that was all of them but not all were auctioned at the same time. As later that summer I drove the only Copper Z07 to the Black Hills Classic and back. After that, GM auctioned the car and it eventually ended up in the hands of a pal of mine who lives near Phoenix. Over the years, I've run across some of the Copper 94s and only twice, the first time was the car I road tested in the Summer of 94 and at the NCM about 10 years ago, have I seen a Copper car with all the panels matching.

In the Spring of 12 I was over to visit my friend in PHX who owns the Copper Z07. I can't remember how many miles he has on the car but it's a lot. It still looks pretty good. That was a great color.
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actually, i am the phx person referenced. i still have this 94 copper car. i am the 2nd owner, as i bought it directly in 1996 from the person who purchased it at auction from a gm dealership. it was a press car. it currently has 225k miles and is my daily driver.

copper.jpg

it's pretty stable and not very costly. insurance is low, registration is almost nothing, and besides normal maintenance items, i've had to do 2 optisparks,suspension bushings, and headlight gears. other than that, it's had nothing done to it.

it's still fun to drive, and still turns heads. i get compliments everywhere i go.

regards,
charlie
cave creek, az
 
actually, i am the phx person referenced. i still have this 94 copper car. i am the 2nd owner, as i bought it directly in 1996 from the person who purchased it at auction from a gm dealership. it was a press car. it currently has 225k miles and is my daily driver.

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it's pretty stable and not very costly. insurance is low, registration is almost nothing, and besides normal maintenance items, i've had to do 2 optisparks,suspension bushings, and headlight gears. other than that, it's had nothing done to it.

it's still fun to drive, and still turns heads. i get compliments everywhere i go.

regards,
charlie
cave creek, az
224K miles? Is it broken in yet? :)

I love the colour! Looking gooood!!!

Mac
 
What makes me sick about this is in 94 I had a brand new Copper tan/tan manual convert then lost my job, moved away, couldn't keep the car. dagnabit! :ugh
 
Using Copper Metallic Now

I wonder how hard it would be to find a shop that could put this paint on now. Been thinking about a 92-93 Corvette project for awhile now, wondering how hard it would be to get a match doing a repaint on one.
 
Back in 1994, the Bowling Green paint shop was partially automated. The problem back in 1994 was getting the robots they used in paint shot at the time to apply the copper metallic consistently.

I would think that today, any body/paint shop experienced in shooting metallic base coat/clear coat paint systems could shoot a car in copper metallic and have it look much better than what the factory was trying to achieve in 1994.
 
(snip)The reason it was discontinued early into that year, he told me, was that due to the translucent nature of the paint itself, the cars had to be sprayed by hand rather than being done by machine. That sounded its death knoll after only three days of spraying 116 '94's.
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I'm not sure the above is not correct. I don't think any 1994 was "sprayed by hand". In fact, I don't think the paint shop in the Bowling Green plant had the ability to paint an entire car by hand. The problem with the copper, was that the partially automated process used back in the late C4 era to apply the base coat/clear coat paint system turned out to be unable to apply the copper metallic paint consistently on all all the panels. GM was not able to solve the problem, so the color was discontinued soon after SOP for MY94.

This has made Copper 94s, especially the few which had reasonably consistent paint quality, highly disireable collector items.

Lastly, I don't think Copper Metallic was "translucent", at least not in the sense of some of the later extra cost exterior colors of the C5 and C6 eras. I'm pretty sure there was a base coat of Copper metallic and then a clear coat.
 
Thanks for the note, Mr. Halverson. BTW, good to see you on here! I'd be embarrassed to admit how much I spent back in the day on Corvette magazines, especially 'Vette', when the C4 was still around, used to love to see your BBFH updates. Have to say, the C4 was and is my favorite, the following generations never did seem to have the same sense of smooth style, really loved those articles back then on that model. Anyway, thanks again for the quick response, sir!
 
I wonder how hard it would be to find a shop that could put this paint on now. Been thinking about a 92-93 Corvette project for awhile now, wondering how hard it would be to get a match doing a repaint on one.

the color is still orderable at the paint store i went to to get touchup paint. there's probably been some color fading on mine, but i would expect that a good paint shop could match it.
 
Thanks for the note, Mr. Halverson. BTW, good to see you on here! I'd be embarrassed to admit how much I spent back in the day on Corvette magazines, especially 'Vette', when the C4 was still around, used to love to see your BBFH updates. Have to say, the C4 was and is my favorite, the following generations never did seem to have the same sense of smooth style, really loved those articles back then on that model. Anyway, thanks again for the quick response, sir!

Ok. I'm guilty, again of not stopping by this thread for a while.

BBfH lives here on the CAC in the feature articles section.

Also I see my friend "copper_94" has been posting. Hope all is well in Cave Creek.
 

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