10-% Ethanol

[jimbil208]

I just bought an additive called Star Tron Enzyme Fuel Treatment.
Does anyone have a comment on how it works?

 

[Vettehead Mikey]

Biggest scam/snake oil on the market. Worthless. Their sales gimmick is claiming to prevent bad things from happening (pssst-they weren't going to happen anyway).

Other than that, pretty good. :eyerole

 

[spikebot 81]

All the gas staions have been putting ethonol in the fuel year round here in WA. I have not noticed any problems. The q jet carb has been replaced with a 600 cfm edle 3 years ago and no issues.

 

[LLC5]

Biggest scam/snake oil on the market. Worthless. Their sales gimmick is claiming to prevent bad things from happening (pssst-they weren't going to happen anyway).

Other than that, pretty good. :eyerole

I wouldn't give it that much credit. I wouldn't put it in my vehicle, it can cause problems that aren't there now.

 

[KauaiCorvette]

Gasoline is made from oil that has been in the ground for longer than dirt. Ethanol is made from corn that has been recently grown and harvested. How long does corn last once you harvest it?

I have a better idea for a source of renewable fuel. First we go back to Iraq and take theirs. Then we go to... :L

Check out this information on E-10 problems.

Problems and Disadvantages of Ethanol Alcohol Blend Gasolines - E10.

 

[Vettehead Mikey]

Good thing I put my tin foil hat on before reading that link. The sky IS falling otfl

 

[o2bnkc]

Just read something about (goverment) permitting 15%-20% ethanol blend in the near future. I think it was in Hemmings Classic Car mag. They didn't sound to jazzed about it and neither am I.ad

 

[TimAT]

The corn producers are the biggest fans of ethanol. From what I've seen, the ethanol eats rubber fuel lines if they're not the new type rubber and mileage gets worse, (Alcohol has less BTU's per gallon than gas). Once they get to a higher percentage of ethanol, I suspect we'll see some problems with mixture too. We'll all be figuring out how much bigger the jets in the carb will need to be and then how we'll get there. Holley shouldn't be much of a problem, but the Q-Jet guys may have a fight.

 

[LLC5]

Just read something about (goverment) permitting 15%-20% ethanol blend in the near future. I think it was in Hemmings Classic Car mag. They didn't sound to jazzed about it and neither am I.ad

The Feds are mandating higher MPG from the manufacturers, yet they want to give us fuel that gives us 10-20% (or more) worse fuel mileage. Typical bureaucratic idiocy.

 

[glen242]

The Feds are mandating higher MPG from the manufacturers, yet they want to give us fuel that gives us 10-20% (or more) worse fuel mileage. Typical bureaucratic idiocy.

Anyone notice that ozone Al Gore has admitted that his efforts, to promote corn gas, was political? He also stated that the energy required to produce corn gas was just about a wash, energy wise, with straight gasoline.

 

[KauaiCorvette]

Good thing I put my tin foil hat on before reading that link. The sky IS falling otfl

O.K... Maybe my tin foil hat IS on a little too tight. :L I don't really have much of a problem with ethanol 10. Go ahead and put in your Prius. I just don't want it in my Corvette that was designed to run on good old gasoline.

Their is a reason the manufacturers changed the type of fuel lines in the newer cars ya know, and it isn't to resist falling sky.

 

[Vettehead Mikey]

Any materials manufactured auto fuel systems in the last 20 years or so is compatible with ethanol. If you're running around with older stuff than that, it's due for replacement anyway.

 

[TimAT]

Any materials manufactured auto fuel systems in the last 20 years or so is compatible with ethanol. If you're running around with older stuff than that, it's due for replacement anyway.

I agree. But you need to watch the auto parts monkeys- they'll sell you the cheap stuff when you need hose that is marked "Fuel". They just tried that with me- I needed a 1/2 fuel line for another project- "Sure, we have that!" He came trotting out with a piece of 1/2" HEATER HOSE!?>:W

 

[73shark]

Main problem w/ alcohol besides having less energy than gas is that it's a mild acid. That's why aluminum parts are threatened. It will tolerate a higher CR tho.

 

[JohnZ]

Main problem w/ alcohol besides having less energy than gas is that it's a mild acid. That's why aluminum parts are threatened. It will tolerate a higher CR tho.

If that was a real issue, I doubt if the manufacturers would be putting aluminum radiators and heater cores in all of the E85-capable new cars.

 

[73shark]

Last I checked, there isn't any reason to put gasoline, E85 or otherwise, in the coolant system.

 

[JohnZ]

Last I checked, there isn't any reason to put gasoline, E85 or otherwise, in the coolant system.

Yup, my bad; must have had my baseball cap on backwards. :eyerole

 

[TimAT]

Yup, my bad; must have had my baseball cap on backwards. :eyerole

Probably wasn't backwards Mr. John, but it may have been a little too tight..

 

[82ColEd]

And luckily for us, we're getting 10% in our regular fuel now. Yey. :eyerole

Psst: Someone telll the Id10t's up top that regular isnt really sold that much anymore, due to the price being almost identical most gas stations have combined and are selling Super+ only..

But Super+ will be only 5% until 2013, then that goes too. There is talk in the Corvette world here to use a bit of chainsaw oil (not for the chain, but the actual oil) in the mix. I havent tried that as i am running Super+, but when the time comes, we'll see what shakes..

The OP's question though: Dont bother.




-Stefan

 

[Vettehead Mikey]

And luckily for us, we're getting 10% in our regular fuel now. Yey. :eyerole

Psst: Someone telll the Id10t's up top that regular isnt really sold that much anymore, due to the price being almost identical most gas stations have combined and are selling Super+ only..

But Super+ will be only 5% until 2013, then that goes too. There is talk in the Corvette world here to use a bit of chainsaw oil (not for the chain, but the actual oil) in the mix. I havent tried that as i am running Super+, but when the time comes, we'll see what shakes..

The OP's question though: Dont bother.




-Stefan

Stephan,

I presume you're referring to how things are in Germany. If so, it's a very different ball game than N.Am. The worst part of it is the rampant myths and misinformation on the subject causing people to either panic, buy worthless miracle cures or start doing dumb things to their cars- like pouring oil into the gas tank.

We've had E10 gas here for 20ish years and I know of NO ONE who has had problems with it in new cars or old.