Video: 2014 Corvette - It's All in the Calibration

[warren s]

Well, sorry to go off on a tangent from the original post....

The glimpse of the new tach and info center looks interesting and I hope it also restores the ability to display and pull up trouble codes.....in the unlikely event you will need to.

 

[LLC5]

Camaro styled tail lights, Sonic or Spark styled gauges (can't remember which one). I think I see a theme here........

 

[Duntov7]

......I'd buy a C7 in a heartbeat if I didn't have a new C6 - that's been trouble free.

BRAVO !

 

[tim414]

That's correct. All of the parts can be brand new, but it all depends upon what "brand new" means. You can make subtle, minor changes to a part; it can still be similar to the previous part; but technically - it's brand new - with a brand new part number.

Example: The headlight gears for C4 Corvette headlight motors. GM changed the design at least once that I'm aware of. The gears are not interchangeable between certain model years. Very similar design - but technically - different parts and different part numbers.

What I mean by a "re-engineering" is a total frame-up redesign. I'm willing to bet that there will be a LOT of similarities - visually - between the C6 and C7. You won't see huge changes like you did going from C1 to C2, C2 to C3, C3 to C4, etc.

Also, other media outlets have reported that the C7 generation is believed to be a short lived generation, and that the C8 will be the "re-design" on par with what we've seen from past generational changes.

I agree. Everything I have read regarding C8 is that it WILL be revolutionary, V6 twin turbo, mid engine design and very light. What I've read anyway....

 

[tim414]

I know Paul personally and can attest to his dedication to the Corvette. I saw his passion at different CruiseFest we've had where he rebuilt something in the front end of a C5 right in the parking lot using his personal tools and working under the car using jack stands and a floor jack...

I also will mention that comparing c4c5specialist to an every day GM Dealership mechanic .... say from York, Nebraska or Podunk Texas is like comparing a fisherman to a coal worker... not even in the realm of comparisons ... c4c5 has distinguished his career and himself as a "World Class GM Certified Mechanic" and folks they just don't give those titles away

Plus he is a true gentleman and inspiration to all he meets, never a rain cloud without a rainbow in c4c5 world view...

Not to embarrass, but emphasize the man behind the title of c4c5specialist :dance


Bud Dougherty
Amarillo, TX

Didn't he attend the 2009 National Vette Caravan at NCM and he held a seminar...do not remember the topic. If it's the same guy then I met him also and that guy knew his way around Vettes.

 

[1analguy]

I'm retired now, and I don't even have time for all this coy bull***t. After Car & Driver confirmed my worst fears in the new issue, I think Chevy's dragging their feet on the reveal because they are understandably ashamed of what they have wrought, styling wise. Change, just for the sake of change, is not always a good thing. I'm going to see the car in Detroit, and if it looks substantially like the C & D renderings, then I won't be tuning in again until the C8 comes out. I skipped the C5 and I can skip the C7, too...

And no, it's not just a mild re-do of the C6. Expect all models to have aluminum frames with larger side rails spaced out farther from the car's center. No doubt the rails had to be larger to support the targa top on the coupe and no top on the convertible. If the instrument cluster is in fact a TFT display (as on the new Dodge Dart and SRT Viper), then you may well be able to program it to look like almost anything you might want...

 

[catbert]

Didn't he attend the 2009 National Vette Caravan at NCM and he held a seminar...do not remember the topic. If it's the same guy then I met him also and that guy knew his way around Vettes.

Paul has been to many functions at the Museum, Carlisle, Mid America, and Corvette Action Center CruiseFests. To say he knows his way around Vettes is an understatement.

 

[Dadman1950]

I know Paul personally and can attest to his dedication to the Corvette. I saw his passion at different CruiseFest we've had where he rebuilt something in the front end of a C5 right in the parking lot using his personal tools and working under the car using jack stands and a floor jack...

I also will mention that comparing c4c5specialist to an every day GM Dealership mechanic .... say from York, Nebraska or Podunk Texas is like comparing a fisherman to a coal worker... not even in the realm of comparisons ... c4c5 has distinguished his career and himself as a "World Class GM Certified Mechanic" and folks they just don't give those titles away

Plus he is a true gentleman and inspiration to all he meets, never a rain cloud without a rainbow in c4c5 world view...

Not to embarrass, but emphasize the man behind the title of c4c5specialist :dance


Bud Dougherty
Amarillo, TX

Understand that my comment on the frustration of working with my local dealer was certainly not aimed at someone like c4c5. I only wish that we had someone like that at my dealer. Someone that would consult the GM service bulletins rather than try and shoot from the hip to fix a problem or deny that a problem even existed. In fact I sympathize with those really good mechanics who are qualified to fix a problem but are prevented from completely taking care of the customer. I think it would be very helpful if there was one dealer in every metro area that was staffed with top quality mechanics trained to deal with tough problems. And GM listed those dealers. In any event understand that most of my displeasure is with the "dealer" - the owner - that where the priorities and standard is set.

Thankfully though as I stated I have a C6 that I bought new in 2005 and it has not had a problem.
Ooopps there was one - there was a necessary upgrade to the XM radio that the dealer had to do a minor reprogramming (i think all C5's and 2005 C6s made before a certain date needed this. A 5 minute procedure i was told.) Took car in first time service manager said that it wasn't necessary since I had a C6. I told him that I got a notice that my car needed it. He said the notice was wrong only C5s needed it. I left called GM and was told that I needed it. Took it back gave the service manager the GM person and number that said I needed the procedure. The service manager was totally pissed that I had taken it another step and did not listen to him, but he took the car in. Told me it would take "Several hours" to complete the "5 minute procedure". The "mechanic" he gave it to did not read the bulletin and when I got the car back the radio did not work at all. Took it back and found out that the service manager gave the job to a "handiman" around the shop to do the procedure and he totally screwed it up. Now I do not blame GM engineering for this - I blame the dealer first and GM for allowing dealers like this to exist. And i still consider that the car has been totally trouble free. It was the dealer that screwed this up. And all too often this is what you get at many dealers. This is why I hate to even think about taking my car to a dealer.
In all too many instances this type of service sadly taints many dealership's service departments.
And again certainly not reflective of c4c5.

 

[1analguy]

I liked the C4 Corvettes except for the digital dash which is what killed it for me. Any Corvette that comes out with a digital dash , my reaction will be , as they say on the show " SHARK TANK " I'm out !

Can you be more specific on which C4 dash you dislike so much? I suspect your dislike of the "C4 digital dash" may stem from the earlier models that had a graphical representation of engine speed instead of an actual tachometer. My '96 has a sport-bike-ideal analog tach and a very accurate (and easy to read) digital speedometer. Sport bike manufacturers have conducted studies on human visual acuity/comprehension that have determined that the best, most natural setup for conceptualizing a rapidly-changing quantity (engine speed) as quickly as possible is the relative position of a physical indicator needle sweeping around a dial. Conversely, they found that when you need to know your vehicle speed, it's a comparatively-slowly changing (or even fixed) value and your attention isn't nearly so "compressed" as it is while reading an accelerating tachometer. While you usually do have time to interpret/comprehend an analog needle/numbers/dial setup, a clear set of digits works even better/quicker because it eliminates two extra mental steps. You don't need to actually read the numbers on the dial and then interpret their meaning in relation to the position of the indicator needle...the digits just display the value directly.

Unfortunately, this new video hints at yet another attempt at a graphical representation of engine speed, albeit a dial-based attempt. If true, it is a 30-year step backwards. But, as stated earlier, you may be able to program or select a different, more effective display. Since Chevy is dragging this reveal out ad nausium, we'll just have to wait and see. I'll never understand the penchant that the manufacturers have for feeling the need to answer questions that nobody is asking. Just because it's now possible to substitute a computer screen for an instrument cluster doesn't necessarily mean that it's a good idea to do so. I predict that it will cause far more grief than it will relieve in the long run...

 

[froggy47]

Can you be more specific on which C4 dash you dislike so much? I suspect your dislike of the "C4 digital dash" may stem from the earlier models that had a graphical representation of engine speed instead of an actual tachometer. My '96 has a sport-bike-ideal analog tach and a very accurate (and easy to read) digital speedometer. Sport bike manufacturers have conducted studies on human visual acuity/comprehension that have determined that the best, most natural setup for conceptualizing a rapidly-changing quantity (engine speed) as quickly as possible is the relative position of a physical indicator needle sweeping around a dial. Conversely, they found that when you need to know your vehicle speed, it's a comparatively-slowly changing (or even fixed) value and your attention isn't nearly so "compressed" as it is while reading an accelerating tachometer. While you usually do have time to interpret/comprehend an analog needle/numbers/dial setup, a clear set of digits works even better/quicker because it eliminates two extra mental steps. You don't need to actually read the numbers on the dial and then interpret their meaning in relation to the position of the indicator needle...the digits just display the value directly.

Unfortunately, this new video hints at yet another attempt at a graphical representation of engine speed, albeit a dial-based attempt. If true, it is a 30-year step backwards. But, as stated earlier, you may be able to program or select a different, more effective display. Since Chevy is dragging this reveal out ad nausium, we'll just have to wait and see. I'll never understand the penchant that the manufacturers have for feeling the need to answer questions that nobody is asking. Just because it's now possible to substitute a computer screen for an instrument cluster doesn't necessarily mean that it's a good idea to do so. I predict that it will cause far more grief than it will relieve in the long run...

I had a 96 and I liked the digital/analog combo fine. My c5 HUD allows HUD speed digits and the dash keeps the analog tach. As for the HUD unfortunately GM designed in (or failed to correct for ) a LOT of LAG. I will be dead stopped & the HUD speed is still indicating 5 mph.

Come on GM, you can do better than that.

 

[hoosierdaddy]

Most definently the best of the best . . . . . . . . .

c4c5specialist is without a doubt the BEST of the BEST and a true testiment to his profession, he takes a backseat to no one.
He has more passsion for the Corvette than any I know
​

Bill

 

[dcsteg]

I think there was a whole thread on should the Corvette be its own brand and have its own dealership...maybe with the Caddys....I believe there are designated Corvette dealers now with people spacifically trained to work on these cars. A good plumber and a good wrench are people to take care of......

Hendrick Chevrolet ..Merriam KS top notch.

Never any issues and the car is repaired, no greasy finger prints, just as I left it. The car is returned to me in a secure covered area.

They always have 20-35 new Corvetts on the lot. They are a Corvette dealer and know what they are selling and how to fix issues if they come up.

Makes a difference.

 

[dcsteg]

I'll tell you guys. I would be hard pressed to give up my 2011 SS Blue Carbon regardless what the C7 will be offering. It's unique.. only 252 built and always draws a crowd.

I am very fortunate to own this Corvette. Not to say I am better then you. I like all Corvettes.

I will withhold judgment on the C7 till I see it in person.

 

[JJS]

I'd like to see some pictures of your car - the blue carbon Z06.
I never heard of that color and it looks great in your avatar.

 

[Dadman1950]

Hendrick Chevrolet ..Merriam KS top notch.

Never any issues and the car is repaired, no greasy finger prints, just as I left it. The car is returned to me in a secure covered area.

They always have 20-35 new Corvetts on the lot. They are a Corvette dealer and know what they are selling and how to fix issues if they come up.

Makes a difference.

You are Lucky to have them. Wish we had a Chevrolet dealer here in Phoenix/Mesa/Scottsdale that was like that. Horror stories about many of these dealers. BTW are they associated with Rick Hendricks dealerships in North Carolina?

 

[dcsteg]

You are Lucky to have them. Wish we had a Chevrolet dealer here in Phoenix/Mesa/Scottsdale that was like that. Horror stories about many of these dealers. BTW are they associated with Rick Hendricks dealerships in North Carolina?

Yes, it's one of his dealerships.

 

[dcsteg]

I'd like to see some pictures of your car - the blue carbon Z06.
I never heard of that color and it looks great in your avatar.

Here you go...the red and black are previous Vettes I owned. Right click photo hit open link to enlarge photos.

2011 Corvete Z06 Photos by Davesconifers | Photobucket

 

[JJS]

Thank you - that is one beautiful car as were the others.

-JJS

 

[hoosierdaddy]

Rick Hendricks dealerships in North Carolina

You are Lucky to have them. Wish we had a Chevrolet dealer here in Phoenix/Mesa/Scottsdale that was like that. Horror stories about many of these dealers. BTW are they associated with Rick Hendricks dealerships in North Carolina?

You are lucky to have one of Hendricks dealerships in your area, I have a lot of respect for this man