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The "INF RES" (airbag) light stays on. The Haynes refers to a module that retains trouble codes, but nothing on troubleshooting the problem. Anyone have any experience with this? Seatbelt light also stays on evenwhen both seatbelts are buckled. Could these two be related? Haven't had a chance to troubleshoot the seatbelt, so any starting points will help.
Thanks;
Jerry
 
Can't really say what the problem is and be definite but on other GM cars when the airbag light stayed on the connector under the seat had become disconnected or pinched. If you have something stuffed under the seat and you move it, you might have disconnected or jammed the connector. Same with the seatbelt wiring. Check under the seat first before tearing into something else.

Randy:w
 
90 SIR Problem

I am having the same problem as well as many others. It seems to be just the 1990 model. The seat belt light is turned on because of the SIR code is stored and the air bag is turned off by the SIR computer and the CCM computer sees that and turns on the seatbelt light. Usually it is the front sensors that throw the codes 13 & 26 I think it is in my earlier post SIR problems. You can have the codes cleared but they will eventually return for some odd reason. I even changed the sensors. It apears it is a ground problem as the sensors check ok. The system checks to see if there is any resistance between the ground of the SIR computer and the sensor ground. There is a tsb out for it that has you clean and remount the sensors in a special grease. I have done all of this to mine and still the light returns. Also the only way I have been able to clear the codes is to take it to a dealer and the also have a hard time clearing it. I have all the factory manuals and have been hit and miss working on it. I will eventually find it. I have another question have you replaced the radio with a aftermarket one. That is when my trouble became worst. There are data ports on the factory radio which adjust volume etc. from one of the computers. There is a post on adding resistors on here to cure it but the color code must change by the years as it didnt line up with my 1990.
 
Haven't messed with the radio. Hell Just bought it two weeks ago following my '84 getting totalled. I'll try the cleaning of grounds and connectors. If I short the ALDL, will it throw a code through the check engine light flashing? Haven't tried it yet, but if that's how you read the codes on the system, I'll read them and let you know!
Thanks;
Jerry
 
90 air bag

the 90 airbag is an ongoing problem. I have spent a considerable amount of time on this as well. My research has centered around what is called by some the "clock spring" in the bag. That goes bad, and sends off a bad code. This small part is not made anymore. I have hit most of the part suppliers and recyclers around the country, and you can't get 'em. The closest you get is to replace the whole steering column. That's cost prohibitive.

Here's what I've done. There's a specific air bag place, you can find it on the web. The lady who answered the phone has a '90 and she told me her's went off as well. Her boyfriend bought a "tool" from Eckler's. I knew about it, but she was the first one I heard who used it. It's about $19. you plug it in to the computer lead under the dash, above the gas pedal. The directions are simple and in about 30 second, the lights gone. In eckler's, it's called a INFL RST correction tool, or something like that. It's specifically set up for the '90 which has this problem.

I went ahead and ordered one, after spending tons of time, etc., and money messing with this. On her's, she said her light has not come back on for over a year. Mine only lasted about a month, then came back on. But I just hit it again.

This does appear to be an ongoing problem with that model only. The steering wheel airbag changed in '91 it appears, so it's just one of those things about that year. I know other folks with a '90, and they just pulled the bulb so they'd stop looking at it.

The practical problem is, other than cleaning sensors, etc. (which is suggested by the INFL RST tool from Ecklker's) it does appear that this "clock spring" is the problem, but no one makes a replacement. I even check around the country with GM dealerships. They just don't have 'em any more.

Hope that helps.
 
This is a very common problem on the 1990 corvette. I had the same problem on my 1990 convertible, and it turned out to be the impact sensors on the frame rails; they were not grounded properly. There's even a TSB on this issue. The sensors need to be removed and regrounded to the frame with dielectric grease.
 
Lyle;
Trying to fing the tool you spoke of in the Eckler's catalog. Since they're about 5 min from my house, I'd pick one up. I can't seem to find it, or anything similar, so if you could help me with a part # or name, I'll owe you one!
Thanks;
Jerry
 
I'll check my Eckler's and invoice tonight. Sorry I'm just catching your reply this a.m. It may be tomorrow a.m. b/f I can get you that part number.
 
The 90 has a problem with the placement of the sensor on the frame rail. The one on the passanger side is mounted on top of the frame rail right under the A/C evaporator. As a result it stays wet most of the time. This will cause rust to form at its grounding point (the bolt) thus causing a ground fault and setting the code.

To fix you need to check the code to make sure which sensor it is (could be the driver side but more then likely it is the passanger side), the disconnect the battery and wait at least 30 minutes before doing anything. (The slightest left over static could set off the air bag and you do not want that expense.) Then remove the sensor, clean the bolt area of any rust, and reattach. Then cover it with dielectic grease to keep the moisture out. This may hold you for a year or so before the rust reforms and sets another code.

The switch thing that Ecklers sells is just to clear the code from the computer. It does not fix the problem. If rust is causing a grounding problem, the code will be reset in very short order.

Due to the design, this is a never ending problem. That is why my light has been on for about three years now :) Just got tired of fixing it. :(

tom...
 
Thanks for the info. It's throwing code 26. The TSB in the Tech Center instructs how to reset the code. I tried to clear the code but it's still there, so it looks like the sensor ground is the next step! I'll also clean the connector while I'm at it. Thanks to everyone for the assist. If the Ecklers part only clears the code, I'll save myself the $20 and use the TSB!
I'll post the results!
Thanks again;
Jerry
 
Well, tried all the tricks. Cleaned connector and all the grounds. The code reset for about 20 seconds, and came right back! About at the end of my rope with this! Perhaps the best way to get rid of the code is to get rid of the bulb? Any more ideas, and I be willing to try!
Jerry
 
Oh Yeah....One more thing. I never actually found the sensor. I did find the ground under the A/C line pass side. Should I be seeing the sensor itself on the frame? Maybe it's not there?:confused
 
J37,

I just went through all of this last week!

Code 26

The sensor is under the windshield washer bottle, right hand side (it is black, about 1 1/2" high @ 1 3/4" long and @ 1 1/2" wide ((has an arrow on it pointing towards the front of the car)) held on with 2 bolts 10mm and 13mm, Yellow wire shield on it) You will not be able to see the sensor if you do not remove the windshield washer bottle.

What connecter did you clean (location)?

Lyle nelson,

You can find the Clockspring at:

http://www.gm-parts-dealer.com/parts.htm
Clockspring, All models Year:1990 List:214.00 Your price:160.50
 
Thanks! for the clock spring info. I'll post if it works
 
Tom73 said:
The 90 has a problem with the placement of the sensor on the frame rail.

That is incorrect. The sensors were placed there for all years from 90-96. 90 was just the test mule for the damn system and the one thing they forgot to add was dielectic grease. This was added to 91+

The other issue to the system is there is a secondary ground/power which can corrode. This is the tree behind the battery going into the firewall. This area should be cleaned and coated with dielectic grease as well. make sure when sanding the frame, you also sand the sensor tabs to clean them, as well as the bolts that tighten them down to the frame.

The passenger side sensor is a bear to get to, but the driver side is easy with removal of the battery. I'll post pictures later on if i still have them.

This is from a friends job, here is the sensor on the driver side.

http://67.160.177.117/old_proj7/old_proj7.html

mvc-040f.jpg
 
Jeffvette said:

This is from a friends job, here is the sensor on the driver side.
I thought all SRS wiring was yellow and I don't see anything yellow there.

tom...
 
Out of curosity -

Would it make sense to apply dielectric grease to both sensors on a '90 as a preventative measure - so should I just wait until the light comes on somewhere down the road?

If I do it now as a preventative - do I just slather the grease on and around the sensors - or do I need to unbolt them from the frame 1st?
 
Hey Jeffvette; What an incredible site! You really documented every step! Now that I know where to find the sensors, I can clean them! Mine's throwing a code 26, which I believe is the Pass side, but after seeing the corrosion on the surrounding E-Points, I think I'll do the driver's side also!I guess if I wasn't so cheap, and bought a real shop manual, I would have known where they were to start with, huh? Anyway, Thanks for all the posts. Now that I know where they are, I can clean them and post my results!
P.s. The connector that I cleaned was the yellow connector under the steering cloumn (under the kick plate)
 

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