Allow me to share my misery (with my car that is)

[IH2LOSE]

So I had exspected to have my 62 done by now,But a bunch of stuff came up.

I have been traveling quite a bit with work commetments,I got laid up twice with small injuries, any ways to make a long story short.

Today was the first time I have been in my garage in a while.Today was a beutifull day the sun was out and real strong.

I pushed the 62 out on the driveway to switch bays,I also laid the dash pad on the dash board to allow the sun to let it settle in proper.( I am still waitning on my broken winsheild post to be returned to me thats a different missery) Any ways I pushed the 62 out and let it sit in the sun all day. I also took the time to install the hood.

1st problem

The hood fits terrible,this was a hood I had purchased off of Ebay.When the car was being painted we dropped the original hood on the car(it has a backwards tear drop scoop on it) and it fit perfect. the ebay bay hood never went on the car but all of the edges were good. no addtional body work was needed to fit my original hood,and the car was painted with out a hood on it.

When we finally got the ebay hood it needed to have some repairs,it was sealed and painted and I put it in my office till today. It seams some time in the past the orig inal hood was repaired anlong with the area around the hood (passengerside courner) and some one just added more material to my hood to make it match up to the body. So it looks like I will have to add some material to my ebay hood to make it fit correct.

2nd problem

From the car being out in the sun all day I am getting solvent blisters (I think)
So I am at a cross roads for now,complete building the car as it is,and have the body shop repair the solvent pops and blend them in.Or dissamble the body and give it back to him to re do the entire car.

So far I have found 2 solvent pops. One about an inch and a half in diameter and the other one about 3 inches in diameter.

So I am slightley disapointed today.

 

[67HEAVEN]

Damn, Larry. Sorry to hear about these setbacks.

You know all the soothing words -- "these old cars"........."damn eBay parts"......"take your time, it'll all work out".

They're all true in this case, not that it helps much.

 

[firstgear]

yikes.....very dis-heartening.....keep the chin up and stay focused on the goal....minor setbacks....great goal ahead of you....

 

[Gasman]

Sorry to hear. I've given myself min. 2 years to put mine back together.
Just last week, i decided to open up the dash pad. Well, it's not. it is a
nice hard top liner in red, i just need a liner in white. The end will be
that much sweeter when were done, if our frustrations don't get us.

 

[studiog]

Larry, Sorry to hear about your paint and hood problems. Go punch a wall or something then take a deep breath and don't make any hasty decisions about what to do at this moment. I think that you might want to get the car back out in the sun again and let it shine on all sides to be sure you don't have any other potential problem areas. Talk to your paint guy and have him or his rep diagnose the problem to be sure it is solvent pop. Whether you repair the bad areas or repaint the whole car the hood can be done at the same time. Hopefully the blisters can be repaired so you won't have to remove the body. Do you still have the old hood that fit good or is it gone? Now I am nervous about my car which hasn't seen a whole lot of sunlight. Don't stress too much over it. You'll get it straightened out.

 

[vintagecorvette]

I feel your pains. I bought a red freshly painted red 1957 in pieces from a guy a few years back. I brought it home and proceeded to gunk it down and steam clean the underside and frame. No problems. A few days later the entire body looked like it had a bad case of pimples. It was nasty. I did not know what to do. I figured that I would be stripping it and repainting. I parked the car inside took off the wheels and put two large heaters under the car. I let them blow warm/hot air for a couple days and then I parked it back out in the hot sun. Eventually the pimples disappeared.

Does your painter have a proper paint oven/booth. If so, maybe you could stick the car in it over the weekend.

Good luck. oWEN

 

[IH2LOSE]

I feel your pains. I bought a red freshly painted red 1957 in pieces from a guy a few years back. I brought it home and proceeded to gunk it down and steam clean the underside and frame. No problems. A few days later the entire body looked like it had a bad case of pimples. It was nasty. I did not know what to do. I figured that I would be stripping it and repainting. I parked the car inside took off the wheels and put two large heaters under the car. I let them blow warm/hot air for a couple days and then I parked it back out in the hot sun. Eventually the pimples disappeared.

Does your painter have a proper paint oven/booth. If so, maybe you could stick the car in it over the weekend.

Good luck. oWEN

I will get it out in the sun as much as possible prior to making a decision.

Hopefully the shop owner will stop up on monday.

 

[Mac]

When life hands you lemons...

At least you can get the hood painted at the same time as you get the pimples popped! It's just a kick in the lugnuts to have to do either (or both), right?

-Mac

 

[IH2LOSE]

When life hands you lemons...

At least you can get the hood painted at the same time as you get the pimples popped! It's just a kick in the lugnuts to have to do either (or both), right?

-Mac

Yup my lug nuts are sore.

The blister are the most disturbing because I thought we had done ever thing we could to avoid this problem, we actually cooked the car in a spray booth prior to even doing work on it.The car sat after primer for almost 30 days prior to being sealed, The one thing we never did was leave it in the sun,

 

[BarryK]

sorry to hear of your problems on your car Larry. That sucks!
You definately want to get your paint guy to look at it, but i'd be afraid of more bubbles appearing if they came out that fast the first time in the sun.

you have me concerned now for my own paint job. Of course, the primer has been sitting and curing for over 5 weeks now as they still fight on getting the paint mixed properly but hearing of your paint problems has me cringing.

good luck! i'm sure you will get it worked out

 

[IH2LOSE]

sorry to hear of your problems on your car Larry. That sucks!
You definately want to get your paint guy to look at it, but i'd be afraid of more bubbles appearing if they came out that fast the first time in the sun.

you have me concerned now for my own paint job. Of course, the primer has been sitting and curing for over 5 weeks now as they still fight on getting the paint mixed properly but hearing of your paint problems has me cringing.

good luck! i'm sure you will get it worked out

Thanks Barry

I would say if they have the chance,they should leave the car in the sun or under heat lamps till it gets painted

 

[BarryK]

Larry, that's a great idea but i'm not sure it's feasible at the moment. He has the car up on floor jacks with the wheels off and all masked off ready for the paint whenever it gets done getting mixed. Moving it out to the sun and taking off a lot of the masking paper, putting the wheels back on , off the jacks and thru a maze of other cars in the shop as it's tucked kinda in the back for the painting.
I do know he had heat lamps on the car for a while after the sealing and the priming so hopefully between that and the 5 weeks curing so far i'll be safe.

The good news anyway is that while my painter doesn't have a downdraft booth and he normally just paints in his shop with all the doors closed, a friend of his who is a large commercial painter just installed a large downdraft booth right down the street and my guy is welcome to use it anytime he needs so now he is planiing on taking BABY to the new booth to paint her when the paint comes in.
With the booth, he figures painting, wetsanding, clearcoating, and wetsanding again shouldn't take more than a few days once the damn paint gets ready. Than he will let her sit and cure for a few more day before final buffing out of the paint and reassembly.
It's a good plan................if we ever get the right paint!!!!!!!!!! After 5 weeks already I'm starting to get more than a bit frustrasted but I still refuse to accept anything less than the proper color paint from the PPG supplier and so does my painter.

Larry, back to your car: when your painter looks at the bubbles in your paint, I'd say that if there is even the slightest chance more bubbles could appear it would be worth it to pull the body off again to have it repainted. I know it would be a lot of extra work for you but I can tell you are a perfectionist and you won't be happy unless it's done right. Extra work now will be worth it for the future so you know the paint will last. You sure don't want to save work now just to have to end up pulling the body again later on after the car is completely put back together. Just my $.02.

 

[John Mcgraw]

Larry,

Don't let it get to you, it will all come out all right in the end. The blisters sound like solvent pops from the clearcoat. I would doubt that they are being driven from anything that is under the basecoat. Have your painter put the car in the infrared oven and bake the snot out of it, and if no more blisters show up, it is probably ok to just repair the few that you have. I would say that if you have more than a a few blisters, you should remove the clearcoat and shoot again.
As for your schedule, I allways use a rule of thumb that seems to work for me.
I allways figure the worst case scenario for how long it is going to take me to complete a car, and then I double it! Using this formula seldom leaves me dissapointed. The same formula can be used for cost!:L :L


Regards, John McGraw

 

[Mac]

Using this formula seldom leaves me dissapointed. The same formula can be used for cost!:L :L

Exactly! It can also be applied to household renovations, yardwork, even marriages. :W

-Mac

ps: if my wife reads this, it was a joke. :L








pps: for everyone else, I wasn't joking. :bang

 

[Viet Nam Vett]

Damn, Larry. Sorry to hear about these setbacks.

You know all the soothing words -- "these old cars"........."damn eBay parts"......"take your time, it'll all work out".

They're all true in this case, not that it helps much.

Yeah... I second the above. Hang in there.. I'm going thru set backs also with some things I haven't posted. So..I know what your going thru. It's two steps forward and three steps back.

I only get a chance to wrench on my car on the week ends and sometimes in the evenings after I get home at 8:30 PM. When you need parts and have to wait 3-4 days to get them it sets your project back


I think most Forum Members who are working on our cars will tell you the same story. Like Bob says above....

You know all the soothing words -- "these old cars"........."

THIS CRAP IS GOING TO HAPPEN.........!!!

 

[IH2LOSE]

Well I ran home today and left it out in the sun today for a couple of hours,the entire trunk is popping all over.So I can saftley assume this is what will happen to the rest of the car

 

[John Mcgraw]

Larry,

This is not that unusual of a problem, and I am sure that your painter can take care of the problem in short order. Unfortunately, it sounds like he will have to remove the clearcoat and start all over again. Usually happens when too many coats of clear are put on too fast. The problem is really aggrevated in the winter when ambient temps are low.

Regards, John McGraw

 

[IH2LOSE]

Thank John

When I brought it home it smelled like paint in my garage for a while.I then raised the heat in the garage to about 60 and the paint smell went away after about a week.

the blister is the paint,clear and it seems like the ultra sand I just dug into one of the blisters and it seems the entire finish is lifting right off the fiberglass body. I am waiting for the painter to show up as I type.

 

[John Mcgraw]

OH My, that does not sound good! Sounds like it is time to pull the body back off. You have my sympathy, that is a lot of work down the crapper!


Regards, John McGraw

 

[studiog]

Thank John

When I brought it home it smelled like paint in my garage for a while.I then raised the heat in the garage to about 60 and the paint smell went away after about a week.

the blister is the paint,clear and it seems like the ultra sand I just dug into one of the blisters and it seems the entire finish is lifting right off the fiberglass body. I am waiting for the painter to show up as I type.

Larry is there any liquid in the blisters and did you say the Slick Sand is coming up too?