Allow me to share my misery (with my car that is)

[studiog]

Larry I know you're a pro at pulling and dropping that body by now so one more time won't be too bad. Everything is still clean and all the bolts are fresh. Yeah I know... easy for me to say. Let us know right away what the painter says. And now you can get that hood right too.

 

[IH2LOSE]

Larry is there any liquid in the blisters and did you say the Slick Sand is coming up too?

NOPE no liquid, it looks like it down to the glass.Looks like I may be able to peel the paint and slick sand off.

If the painter doesno show up soon I may hit it with the grinder to see what is actually coming up.for sure this is NO easey fix

 

[studiog]

NOPE no liquid, it looks like it down to the glass.Looks like I may be able to peel the paint and slick sand off.

If the painter doesno show up soon I may hit it with the grinder to see what is actually coming up.for sure this is NO easey fix

How about cutting out a little chunk with a razor blade?

 

[IH2LOSE]

How about cutting out a little chunk with a razor blade?

I cut a tiny peice out of the deck lid. I will go take a photo real quick but you cant see anything but i can feel the glass with the blade.

 

[IH2LOSE]

Here is a picture of one of the blisters I cut open,the hole is just a tiny razor blade cut picked at with my pick,this photo was taken zoomed in

this is a picture of the tight clearences of my hood, YES thats my hand sliding into the engine bay area

 

[IH2LOSE]

here is the rest of the photos .remeber that pick is tiny,but i am zoomed in on the hole so it looks big.


http://members19.clubphoto.com/lawrence748455/3170885/guest.phtml

 

[studiog]

Larry are the backs of he paint chips gray? Did the painter show up?

 

[Dinger09]

There are a couple of other threads on this

Try searching on Keith Hodge. He had similiar problems. Lots of guys with like issues responded to him. I asked my painter and he was inclined to think there may be a problem with the compressor used for the gun.

 

[Z28Canuck]

Sorry you are going through such an experience after all your work so far. I can only begin to imagine the sick feeling you got when you saw that first blister on the weekend! Please excuse my ignorance in painting but is this seperating from the body due to improper fibreglass surface cleaning /prep before the sealer was applied or something totally different? Barry can attest to my lack of paint knowledge so please ignore this if it is a dumb question! Did your painter confirm what he thinks caused it and when he'll rectify it for you?
Hopefully this gets resolved real fast for you so you can try to get back on your schedule after this latest setback.
Take care

 

[BarryK]

LOL Doug
I can attest to MY own lack of knowlege also!

Larry, what's the word from your painter? did he show up and have any insight on what happened?


I guess no matter what he said caused it the body has to come back off at this point.
Sorry for the extra work you have to do , I know it's very frustrating to run into problems like this.
I guess unexpected surprises like this are what make these projects so "interesting".

Barry

 

[IH2LOSE]

I missed the painters call,so he never showed up.

I dont have a lacksadaisey attitude on this but the way I figure it what can I do.

I am no perfectionest (belive me) but they way I see it the car must be redone completely. the only thing I have to figure out is weather I am going to commit to this right NOW,and be with out the car for the summer depending on the body shops schedule.Or complete the car as is and then tear it apart after Carlilse in august.

PS I have never had a car project run past 12 months so I would rather continue on my courseand have spot repairs done as needed.

This car has been on and off the frame so many times I no longer have a fear of tearing apart.

 

[67HEAVEN]

Larry,

I sense your mood. I've been there several times myself. Let me briefly remind you of my Corvette story.

Following many years of cruising, racing and Corvette Club partying, I dropped out of the hobby due to a marriage breakdown (resulting in money problems), frustration at continually breaking expensive engines, tires, etc. on the road course and trying to get a new business off the ground.

What I imagined would be a three to five year interlude ended up being 16....then another 4.5 years to build the car they way I wanted it to suit my current age and the realities of fuel availability, traffic conditions, etc.

Although this paint problem is a real setback for your project, keep in mind that you have several other amazing rides in your garage and driveway -- two of which are other Corvettes!!!!

For the last 20+ years, I haven't driven a Corvette at all. But now that the car is pretty much completed (are they ever really finished ), I'm enjoying it more than when it was brand new.

Truth be told, I finally realize how lucky I am to still own this car. When I was 20, it was just another Corvette. Now? I'll let the folks at CruiseFest answer that in June.

All of this is me saying, "Look at all the great cars you have Larry, and don't let this current project sour your mood too much. Jump it that '67 Caddy 'vert or that '66 big block, or the yellow C5 and get a smile back on your dial."

 

[IH2LOSE]

Thanks Bob.

I appreceate the insight,and honesty.

I can and will prevail over this setback.

Its still fun for me.

The day it stops being fun is the day Ill stop building cars.


Thanks Again

 

[studiog]

I missed the painters call,so he never showed up.

I dont have a lacksadaisey attitude on this but the way I figure it what can I do.

I am no perfectionest (belive me) but they way I see it the car must be redone completely. the only thing I have to figure out is weather I am going to commit to this right NOW,and be with out the car for the summer depending on the body shops schedule.Or complete the car as is and then tear it apart after Carlilse in august.

PS I have never had a car project run past 12 months so I would rather continue on my courseand have spot repairs done as needed.

This car has been on and off the frame so many times I no longer have a fear of tearing apart.

Larry if you don't mind my opinion I think I would pursue the repaint now while it's a hot issue with the painter. You'll never be happy driving the car with spot repairs and the hood the way it is. If the painter spot repairs the car now he may try to blow you off in the fall for the full repaint. I'm not saying he's a bad guy but I think it is just human nature that as time passes so does the motivation to make it right. Put some urgency on the painter to turn it around quickly for you. You may not lose as much time as you think. And like Heaven said you're not lacking for a sweet ride with 2 other Vettes in the stable.

 

[John Mcgraw]

Larry,

I agree. Make the painter make it right now before he gets loaded down with work and forgets who you are! There is nothing like a little time going by to make people forget their comittments.


Regards, John

 

[IH2LOSE]

Thanks for all of the input and support.


Things are looking brighter. the trunk lid is the worst and I am looking for a replacement one now. What ever is happening under the paint on the trunk is real bad and not something I want on the car.

The car has been out in the sun,allthough its not as strong as it was on sunday no addtional spots came up.

I will keep you guys posted.

Because of my schedule I have not been able to meet with the paint guy to see the car.



Larry

 

[IH2LOSE]

Well today I met with the paint manufacturors rep.He took a sharp razor blade and dug into the paint. the problem is in the glass I will post a photo tomrow night.But for sure this is a problem in the glass.


the paint is stuck to the slick sand
the slick sand is stuck to the top surface of the glass.

but the glass has delaminated from it self. No answers as to why yet.

 

[BarryK]

Sorry for the bad news on your car Larry!

Between this problem on yours and the paint problem Ray had on his '65 I'm very worried about something going wrong on my paint job!

 

[67HEAVEN]

....but the glass has delaminated from it self. No answers as to why yet.

Larry,

This is bad news. Sorry to hear that it's down deep.

This is a real stab in the dark, but could aggressive surface prep, in advance of even the priming or sealing, have dug too deep into the fiberglass?

The problem is restricted to the deck lid, right?

 

[vette-dude]

I have seen this before in other paint jobs and for what it is worth I think that the problem may be the compressor. The painter probably has a filter and trap on the line but did he have another final filter on the inlet of the gun and was it new if he did? I think you might be getting some compressor oil or water contamination in the airline. Just a thought and a thing to consider before you do the rework. Also, did by chance you mix any fish eye eliminator with the paint mixture? I have been told this is not recommended with two part paints using a catalyst. I tried it once by mistake and it left a mess that took me forever to straighten out so I feel your pain. Sorry it happened and hope you have better luck on the redo.

Randy

PS: The delamination problem would not be a result of the above. That has to be something to do with the glass repair work or maybe a primer solvent incompatibility problem I would think.