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A post from another site: "... those are not body panels at all! What we see is actually made up of painted rennwood and fixture plank that is doweled and bolted up to a steel skeleton.
It is known by GM terms as a DQ&V (Design, Quality and Verification) model. GM got back into doing full vehicle mock up once Lutz got in control. The models are used to show a variety of thing, but most importantly they are used for gap controlling and surface flush or undeflush conditions. What is seen is what is referred to as an ExCB or a full exterior cubing buck.

GM's name for the C6 is GMX 245, it can be see from the head on shot printed on the lower plate. Several other bucks exists such as ICB's (Interior Cubing Bucks) which are full mock ups of the interior out of rennwood, fixture plank, fiberglass and other materials painted in gray primer. Depending on the ICB level, the more detail is involved all the way up to full clothed over interiors. I was not involved with the building of this buck, but I have seen it and do know which building it lives in.

The front clip you see in the model may or may not be used in production. I have seen about 4 or 5 of them around. I have seen a to variations of a full interior. Both of them look very nice. GM is getting away from the solid color interiors and dressing them up similar to the European cars. One variation had aluminum bezels around the HVAC unit, HVAC vents, door pulls and radio knobs. The second variant had dark gray interior with beige lower knee bolster and glove box door. The passenger side grab handle is gone on the instrument panel. Also the passenger side portion of the instrument panel is more concave in shape with the new "Crossed Flags" Corvette Log. Actually the new logo no longer has the flag posts crossing or a ring around it either. The are some very hard lines on the exterior of the C6 as well. The stylists tightened up the lines on the deck lid/hatch and continued those lines through the roof and rear fascia. Also up for grabs are about 3 different exhaust tip styles. One style is a what you see in the picture of the quad round tips. The two other style are a dual oval type similar to the Corsa Daytona system and the third is similar to the Tri-Flow Speedway tips but will be placed closer together then on the C5. Which fascia and which exhaust style will be used I am sure will not be determined until the week before GM unveils the car the 2004 International Auto Show opening here in Detroit."

I hesitated to post here, because I don't want to loose the source, but I know my fellow C6 addicts need this Info fix. IF I were the paranoid type I would point out that this could just be GM dis-information to promote doubt among us. But this guy gave us much more info than needed if that was the mission, IMO
 
But wait there's more. I missunderstood one of his comments. He just posted:

"Yes, what you see is the new Corvette. I have been involved in a few smaller "Corner Buck" builds of the GMX 245. The smaller builds I have worked on match the headlamp and tail lamp areas you see on the complete mock-up.

There will be three style of the new Corvette to choose from. Coupe, Convertible and full carbon fiber body.

One thing is for sure, the company that is currently housing that build is in deep sh!t with GM. GM has gone to very extended lengths to protect information like this getting out! I know of two direct GM employees that were let go this past spring because they took pictures of the C6 with there camera phones and tried to release the pictures online. No, no camera are allowed with facilities containing GM property."

I hope this guy does not get into trouble.
 
And again from the same source ...

"I never was with GM and I don't think I ever want to work with GM. I have man friends over at the Tech. Center in Warren, MI. but they spend most of their cutting through red tape to get the smallest thing done! NO THANKS! Not my kind of environment! I am an engineer with a company that builds these mock-ups for GM. There are a few guys in my model shop that worked directly on the C6 program that have since been let go due to cut backs. I showed them the pics and they all just about laughed when they saw them! Like I said, GM went to the ends of the Earth to keep this thing under wraps. I am currently working with the build leader for the new H3 Hummer, he is the same guy responsible for C6 exterior build. I am sure he is going to get his ass run through the ringer once his superiors find out these pictures exist."
 
Still more ....
"A little more direct. Inside numbers have the stock C6 up where the ZO6 is now. So around 405 HP and I am sure the torque will be close too! I don't know what the engine code will be though. But from what I have heard from with in the direct GM rumor mill is that they have a new slogan. "VIPER WHAT?"!!! I have seen GA prints and specs from a new engine possibly do out in 2006 that will produce around 550-600HP! A good friend of mine work with Modern Eng. which is one of the companies that does a lot of testing and building for the C5R engines, and he confirmed the rumors."
 
Great information Long Timer, nice job. Well not much longer to go until January auto show time. I wonder what happened to Ross these last few days.
 
Senna1994 said:
Great information Long Timer, nice job. Well not much longer to go until January auto show time. I wonder what happened to Ross these last few days.

Rob better field that one.
 
laughter ???

Longtimer within one of your posts you say:

"I showed them the pics and they all just about laughed when they saw them! "

Where they laughing because these aren't really the pics of the C6 and that the public is being fed misinformation again, or is it because these are the real pics and they laughed because GM droped the ball on security??

Please clarify...Thanks in advance
 
Re: laughter ???

BoeingMan said:
Where they laughing because these aren't really the pics of the C6 and that the public is being fed misinformation again, or is it because these are the real pics and they laughed because GM droped the ball on security??

He was talking about security. In another post he said he knew two guys got the boot last spring for sneaking in camera phones to shoot the C6. He was pointing out the irony that even though people have lost their jobs for some other more minor secuity slips, here the pics are, on the net.

Read my second post. The "boat pics" are the real C6. I only doubt that the final fascia won't be chosen until a week before showing. He is no position to know this. We are 50 days to showings in LA and Detroit. Someone, somewhere is producing lots of the final Fascia, whether it is the boat pic fascia (this is my bet) or some other version we've yet to see. IMO
 
Awesome info, thanks!!! I still can't believe it all but am impressed. :crazy
 
Ya, if it's not true, the guy can really spin a believable tale, huh?
 

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