EHS
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- Location
- Sleepy Hollow, Westchester, NY
- Corvette
- '00 Triple Black Convertible
Saw a red C6 standing outside the local dealer as I was driving by, stopped, went in, and spoke to the salesman, who offered me a drive. So, hey, why not? I bought my 2000 C5 convertible there, so I guess they think I'm "due". The car was "loaded," 15 miles on the odometer, and all the plastic bits still on the body and seats. Because it was brand new, and they were nice enough to offer me the drive, I decided not to "push it." 
Here are the impressions, and while I'm a "Corvette" guy, I'm not that kind of a Corvette guy, so you're getting an honest assessment, not puffery and "gotta have it" talk.
The fit and finish of the C6 is much better than the C5. No orange peel in the paint (Torch Red, or whatever it's now called), and everything looked nice and tight. The passenger A pillar trim was already loose though, don't know whether that came factory, or happened enroute.
The interior finishes are nicer, the seats are much firmer and better built than the C5 seats. The "Malibu" steering wheel is not bad, the leather cover and stitching feels very nice. Perfect texture. The bad part about the interior is the design -- I was expecting a better appearance than the C5 and was very disappointed. The instrument bezels now have the stainless trim that is offered as an aftermarket set for the C5. The painted trim of the center console looks cheap. Even the salesman, who was doing the selling, mentioned it. I actually prefer the "all black" look of the C5 to the C6. It's OK, but in general nothing to write home about. Again, the seats are much better though.
The radio and HVAC cluster looks really cheap. Everything is now touch screen -- think bad ATM. The color scheme and layout of the touch screen is God awful, as is the resolution (pixels). Now for the fun part -- to insert a CD, push the button, and watch the face of the screen do its motorized awning thing. What a strumenza!! Every time -- in and out, up and down. Just wait 'til it jams, or worse, breaks. What ever happened to a good old fashioned slot?
Speaking of techno-gimmicks -- how do you open the driver's door when the car is running? The salesman couldn't figure it out, and neither could I. It wasn't until the car was in reverse, and the engine shut down, that the door button would release the door. That's right, as you've heard, no more door handle to grab. Push a button, and pray it opens. As far as I was able to determine, keeping the car in reverse is going to be important. Give me the old fashioned door handles, so that I can open the door, even when the car is moving, if I have to (or want to). You decide whether the new system is an improvement -- it made me positively claustrophobic when I couldn't get out. Opening a car door shouldn't be this hard -- it should be really intuitive. You know, emergencies and all that.
The push button starter with the lighted rocker switch? Cute, at least it won't have anyone grinding the starter anymore, but otherwise? So? At least if it had been one of those big red jobs off a Le Mans car from the old days, you know -- Steve McQueen style.
The heads-up display. Now a radioactive green color, not as readable as the old one, and smaller. RPM's are now in a circle, and the display is set further to the left (and smaller as mentioned). That means, unless you position your head just so, no "heads-up" display -- or at a minimum, some distortion from the edges as it moves out of the line of vision. So keep your head where David Hill wants it. Again, I mention this because the old one was more readable in bright sunlight, and your head could be left or right a bit without things disappearing.
Noise level is much quieter than the old car, and it feels tighter. That said, the exhaust note inside is more pronounced when you step on it, definitely a V-8, yet perfectly quiet at cruise. The shifter is terrific. Shorter throws, much, much more accurate, without being heavy like the typical market shifter for the C5. Absoultely one of the best features of the new car. Pedal placement hasn't changed -- still terrific for heel and toe. Clutch seems lighter, more smooth, and more progressive. Steering is much better -- nice and firm even at slow speeds, and really good and tight at speed. Much improved over the C5 as well.
The engine? Like I said, I didn't push it, but there is clearly more torque, at virtually all speeds. This is especially noticeable in fifth and sixth gear, which is now useable even at moderate speeds, and moderate inclines. Sixth now feels like a regular car, not something that's being lugged. Again, the engine is terrific, with good torque seemingly available all the time.
The ride and handling? One word, Fantastic! This car had the optional suspension, and the improvement in ride is the same from the C5 to the C6 as it was from the C4 to the C5. No more jarring bumps, terrific control and dampening, absolutely world class. Active handling is much, much less intrusive.
Brakes are still great, seem more progressive; again, I didn't push it too much with the salesman on board and for the benefit of the new customer.
Now, for the bad part. The styling blows, in my humble opinion (writing as a graphic designer and an architect who should know something about design). The unique look is gone, replace by a cartoon. The front looks like a smiley face with braces. The beady little headlights are nothing more than the old Specterwerkes (sp?) after market kit, sunken down into the body, with a plexiglas cover over it. Think BPP headlights meet Specterwerkes.
In profile, the car looks like Godzilla bent one of those plastic Japanese movie cars up at the windshield. From the back, the car looks like a woman who got up from sitting in a too tight skirt, and hadn't quite yanked the back down yet. Too much showing back there, hon, more than I want to see. Panties in a wedgie and all that. For a refined car, you really shouldn't be seeing all that stuff back there -- never mind junk in the trunk -- you can see the junk under the trunk now. Oh, and the exhausts are a dead knock-off of the Corsa Pro tips.
So, in summary, the car has lost some of its "edge" from the C5. The "sinister in black" Batmobile look is gone (mine's a triple black convertible), -- replaced by a happy, grinning, slight under bite smiley face. The raw, "American flag," turn up the Steppenwolf to loud image has been replaced by a more refined European feel. This could be your father's BMW.
That's both good and bad. The handling is much better, the engine is great, the ride is terrific, the refinement is definitely there. The interior is still tacky, just a different kind of tack now. I actually prefer the old. The electronic gimmicks are downright stupid -- what do you mean I can't open the driver's door when the engine is running? The radio is amateurish -- get someone real to do the graphics on the touch screen. The heads-up display is a step backwards in legibility -- yeah, sure, so it now comes with a G meter. Bottom line, while the car is better, the soul is gone.
Finally --part of the drive took us past my favorite body shop, and the owner happened to be outside. He summed it up the best. Imagine an Italian gentleman (in a native New Yorker kind of way
), but a real craftsman and straight shooter, whistling under his breath, squinting his eyes, looking at the $53,000 sticker, and saying, "hey, yeah guys,... looks really nice.... kinda looks a little like an Acura."

Here are the impressions, and while I'm a "Corvette" guy, I'm not that kind of a Corvette guy, so you're getting an honest assessment, not puffery and "gotta have it" talk.
The fit and finish of the C6 is much better than the C5. No orange peel in the paint (Torch Red, or whatever it's now called), and everything looked nice and tight. The passenger A pillar trim was already loose though, don't know whether that came factory, or happened enroute.
The interior finishes are nicer, the seats are much firmer and better built than the C5 seats. The "Malibu" steering wheel is not bad, the leather cover and stitching feels very nice. Perfect texture. The bad part about the interior is the design -- I was expecting a better appearance than the C5 and was very disappointed. The instrument bezels now have the stainless trim that is offered as an aftermarket set for the C5. The painted trim of the center console looks cheap. Even the salesman, who was doing the selling, mentioned it. I actually prefer the "all black" look of the C5 to the C6. It's OK, but in general nothing to write home about. Again, the seats are much better though.
The radio and HVAC cluster looks really cheap. Everything is now touch screen -- think bad ATM. The color scheme and layout of the touch screen is God awful, as is the resolution (pixels). Now for the fun part -- to insert a CD, push the button, and watch the face of the screen do its motorized awning thing. What a strumenza!! Every time -- in and out, up and down. Just wait 'til it jams, or worse, breaks. What ever happened to a good old fashioned slot?
Speaking of techno-gimmicks -- how do you open the driver's door when the car is running? The salesman couldn't figure it out, and neither could I. It wasn't until the car was in reverse, and the engine shut down, that the door button would release the door. That's right, as you've heard, no more door handle to grab. Push a button, and pray it opens. As far as I was able to determine, keeping the car in reverse is going to be important. Give me the old fashioned door handles, so that I can open the door, even when the car is moving, if I have to (or want to). You decide whether the new system is an improvement -- it made me positively claustrophobic when I couldn't get out. Opening a car door shouldn't be this hard -- it should be really intuitive. You know, emergencies and all that.
The push button starter with the lighted rocker switch? Cute, at least it won't have anyone grinding the starter anymore, but otherwise? So? At least if it had been one of those big red jobs off a Le Mans car from the old days, you know -- Steve McQueen style.
The heads-up display. Now a radioactive green color, not as readable as the old one, and smaller. RPM's are now in a circle, and the display is set further to the left (and smaller as mentioned). That means, unless you position your head just so, no "heads-up" display -- or at a minimum, some distortion from the edges as it moves out of the line of vision. So keep your head where David Hill wants it. Again, I mention this because the old one was more readable in bright sunlight, and your head could be left or right a bit without things disappearing.
Noise level is much quieter than the old car, and it feels tighter. That said, the exhaust note inside is more pronounced when you step on it, definitely a V-8, yet perfectly quiet at cruise. The shifter is terrific. Shorter throws, much, much more accurate, without being heavy like the typical market shifter for the C5. Absoultely one of the best features of the new car. Pedal placement hasn't changed -- still terrific for heel and toe. Clutch seems lighter, more smooth, and more progressive. Steering is much better -- nice and firm even at slow speeds, and really good and tight at speed. Much improved over the C5 as well.
The engine? Like I said, I didn't push it, but there is clearly more torque, at virtually all speeds. This is especially noticeable in fifth and sixth gear, which is now useable even at moderate speeds, and moderate inclines. Sixth now feels like a regular car, not something that's being lugged. Again, the engine is terrific, with good torque seemingly available all the time.
The ride and handling? One word, Fantastic! This car had the optional suspension, and the improvement in ride is the same from the C5 to the C6 as it was from the C4 to the C5. No more jarring bumps, terrific control and dampening, absolutely world class. Active handling is much, much less intrusive.

Now, for the bad part. The styling blows, in my humble opinion (writing as a graphic designer and an architect who should know something about design). The unique look is gone, replace by a cartoon. The front looks like a smiley face with braces. The beady little headlights are nothing more than the old Specterwerkes (sp?) after market kit, sunken down into the body, with a plexiglas cover over it. Think BPP headlights meet Specterwerkes.
In profile, the car looks like Godzilla bent one of those plastic Japanese movie cars up at the windshield. From the back, the car looks like a woman who got up from sitting in a too tight skirt, and hadn't quite yanked the back down yet. Too much showing back there, hon, more than I want to see. Panties in a wedgie and all that. For a refined car, you really shouldn't be seeing all that stuff back there -- never mind junk in the trunk -- you can see the junk under the trunk now. Oh, and the exhausts are a dead knock-off of the Corsa Pro tips.
So, in summary, the car has lost some of its "edge" from the C5. The "sinister in black" Batmobile look is gone (mine's a triple black convertible), -- replaced by a happy, grinning, slight under bite smiley face. The raw, "American flag," turn up the Steppenwolf to loud image has been replaced by a more refined European feel. This could be your father's BMW.
That's both good and bad. The handling is much better, the engine is great, the ride is terrific, the refinement is definitely there. The interior is still tacky, just a different kind of tack now. I actually prefer the old. The electronic gimmicks are downright stupid -- what do you mean I can't open the driver's door when the engine is running? The radio is amateurish -- get someone real to do the graphics on the touch screen. The heads-up display is a step backwards in legibility -- yeah, sure, so it now comes with a G meter. Bottom line, while the car is better, the soul is gone.
Finally --part of the drive took us past my favorite body shop, and the owner happened to be outside. He summed it up the best. Imagine an Italian gentleman (in a native New Yorker kind of way
