Disapointed in my 2001 performance.

[DG Gordon]

I bought a 2001 sylver m-6 coupe with less than 5k miles on it and love it alot but the performance is questionable. I traded in my 200 SS m-6 on it and from the get go the SS was faster than this car easily. I had 2 SSs one auto and a 6 speed and I never had a Corvette beat those cars. I have several friends with WS6 and SS and they can beat my Vette. The SS only has a air box and catback and he can pull me all the way to over 100mph as can the WS6. I was hopping the 2001 Vette with the added 5 hp might be faster then previouse ones but I guess not.
I was just wanting to know whats up with Vettes being slower than Camaros and TAs. I know it is not just mine I have been to the track several times and havent seen any stock or near stock Vettes run better then F-Bodys.

 

[CKA_Racing]

You're kidding i hope. Bring them my way. I have ran faster than all of the stock f-bodys I've run along side with in my 96 LT4. I have even spank them all from a stop light to around 100mph in my 91 L98. Keep in mind both of my vettes were factory stock right down to the tires. My LT4 has slowed a little as the mileage is over 100,000 but I'm sure I can still take them. I can usually run in the 12.9-13.2 @107-110mph in my LT4. I've run a best of 13.8 in my L98. The F-bodys are fast indeed and there are a threat with a good driver.

 

[Rob]

I bought a 2001 sylver m-6 coupe with less than 5k miles on it and love it alot but the performance is questionable. I traded in my 200 SS m-6 on it and from the get go the SS was faster than this car easily. I had 2 SSs one auto and a 6 speed and I never had a Corvette beat those cars. I have several friends with WS6 and SS and they can beat my Vette. The SS only has a air box and catback and he can pull me all the way to over 100mph as can the WS6. I was hopping the 2001 Vette with the added 5 hp might be faster then previouse ones but I guess not.
I was just wanting to know whats up with Vettes being slower than Camaros and TAs. I know it is not just mine I have been to the track several times and havent seen any stock or near stock Vettes run better then F-Bodys.

Have you had the car dynotuned to determine what the output is at the rear wheels and the flywheel?

 

[Edmond]

You're kidding i hope. Bring them my way. I have ran faster than all of the stock f-bodys I've run along side with in my 96 LT4. I have even spank them all from a stop light to around 100mph in my 91 L98. Keep in mind both of my vettes were factory stock right down to the tires. My LT4 has slowed a little as the mileage is over 100,000 but I'm sure I can still take them. I can usually run in the 12.9-13.2 @107-110mph in my LT4. I've run a best of 13.8 in my L98. The F-bodys are fast indeed and there are a threat with a good driver.

Steve,

When Gordon brings the 01' your way, do I inherit your LT4?:L :L :L

In all seriousness though, I think it's just a matter of getting in tune with the way the car drives and handles. You can't forget that the F-body engines are practically the same from the Corvette engines but there are variances.

 

[Interceptor430]

You're kidding i hope. ;stupid

 

[DG Gordon]

I am going in next week to dyno the car and I am going to get a Predator to tune it up a little better I hope. I have heard if the stock tuning in a car is on the poor side then tuning from like a Predator can do it worlds of good. My Ss dynoed 329.8 with a lid and catback and ran 13.54 on street tires, I took the Vette out with the lid off and filter tied down and it ran 13.89. I imagine it would be hard pressed to have even 300rwhp.

 

[CKA_Racing]

Not sure what elevation your track is at, but around here 13.8 in a 01 vette is really sad. Are you getting enough traction at the launch? Maybe there is something wrong with it. I'd have it checked out.

 

[DG Gordon]

The elevation is around 3500' but the corrected air was around 5000' that night as it is most night around here in West Texas. Only the strongest running stock LS1 around here can run in the 13s at all. Most stock Zs and TAs run 14.20s. My 2000 SS ran 13.74 and that was very impressive.

 

[warren s]

What is your trap speed and 60 foot time?

 

[DG Gordon]

13.89 @103.5 with a 2.15 60'
I only made 3 passes
1st--14.01 @104 2.27 60'
2nd--13.89 @103.5 2.15 60'
3rd-- car lost traction going into second and I let off

 

[Vettelt193]

have you tried just disconnecting the battery for a few minutes, then re-connecting. This will re-set the computer. That may be all it needs. I have done that before at the track, and my gas mileage went from about 28 on the way to the track, to just over 20 on the way home. These cars can run vastly different if they are 'trying' to get good gas mileage Vs. 'trying' to perform well.

 

[warren s]

From your numbers it looks like a problem coming off the line, as in your technique maybe, at a trap speed of 103.5 you should be in the low 13s. Also 2.15 60 foot time is a little off, sort of like spinning or bogging out of the hole and getting a good head of steam once it either hooks or gets in the power band.


My 95 with very light mods, rated at only 300 HP ran a best of 13.45, 2.0 60 foot time and 102 MPH.

 

[smook]

hey there!...

I know some cars (vettes included) drive different.

It may be that this 2001 has a problem of some kind.

I did have a 94' vette and I was so disappointed with the steering that I traded it in on a '95' vette. It cleared up my problem but cost me money.

Get that dyno-test and compare. Possibly this car has a hidden issue.

Bill.

Good luck.

 

[Radar]

Check the timing. Also check for a partly restricted cat.

Radar

 

[hawaii-5-lo]

hello, i race my stock c5 alot.i have never lost to a stock f-body on the track or on the st---t. i have since added the halltech t-1,and i can beat modded f-bodies,as long as they dont have drag radials. we get lots of military guys that come here after racing in the mainland. they all say our track is about .3 tenths slower than most mainland tracks. they are right. our track SUCKS. the best 60 ft. times i can get is 2.5. my m.p.h., is 104. my quarter mile is 13.60., the stock ls1 f-bodies can manage 13.80, if it is a 6 speed.,14.00 if auto. now that beeing said, the highest octane gas here is 92. if i do not put octane boost in my car, i will here aslight knock and then the computer will shift into a low octane table and the car will not run better than 13.99 at 100. if this happens i have to put in 10 gallens of gas to get the table to reset to the high octane table. oh yah, my car is an auto, 3:15 stock rearend. i hope this makes sense, oh and my launch technech is stage,bring r.p.m.s to 900, roll off the line, i cannot put the pedal to the floor until i am well past the tree,. if i try any other way the tires just spin and time goes down. hope this helps.im a desert storm veteran,and support our troops 100% later Todd.

 

[DG Gordon]

I just raced my buddy in his 2002 SS M-6 and the results are the same he got me by 1 car length. This is with the Blackwing I have. He pulls me on the big end and by the way this is not a driver error as I can outdrive this guy. His car has a 3.5" catback and a lid and Mass air meter. We raced 3 times from a 20 mph roll and we were pretty even till top of second and he would pull me and put a car on me by 110 mph.

 

[ROCKETBLOCK]

I have to say I don't have any accurate recorded times with my 2002 C5 but I do know that the Granitelli Modified MAFS on mine with the Blackwing and Stingers made a real noticable difference. I would say the mod MAS was the single biggest boost. It is programmed different and the Vette's computer had to get used to it, but after a couple of drives it kicked in!!!

 

[hawaii-5-lo]

hello, sorry i did not intend to make it sound like driver error. my buddy has a 30th anniversary trans-am,modified air sensor, wisper lid, k&n,slp headers,random cats,corsa cat back,6-speed,3:73 gears. we raced at track many times,on highway,from a roll, and ive raced our local tuners cars{ls1 firehawks,etc}i have not lost until they went to drag radials and slicks.my friends trans-am listed above cannot beat me in any of those situations listed above.on the highway(no cars late at night),its closer but i slowly pull on him.ive only had my car to 145m.p.h.and it was still pulling strong.maybe the 02 sensors are lazy or somthing wierd like that? other c5s at track run about the same as me.z06s even faster.ive only seen two other c5s go down though,they are both stock.ive seen a 2002 go down,3 times in a row, his best time was 14.02, he just could not resist hammering the gas right off the line.our track is not good enough to do that.we have a concrete launch pad,then goes to asphalt,with a one inch bump at that point, some people say the bump will tickle threr knock sensors, i dont know about that though. maybe have the car scaned. good luck, keep us updated.later Todd.

 

[hawaii-5-lo]

hello, he bud,its me again. im only responding to this thread so you will have more comparisons. my friend Da Hawaiian Punch just tangled with a 200? from a 55m.p.h. roll, the guy jumped him just a little, but was just inching a way ever so slowly up to 115. he has a very littly modded 91 L98, the camero(which is my german shepards name) had at least exhaust. he also goes to the track with me and has seen me beat the f-bodies, my friends ws6,lost to me (at track) five times in a row. so on the drive home, he tried again,he gave up at 130m.p.h., he was at least 2 cars back that is the modded T.A.,list earlier.we have a great road here for when its late at night, 0 traffic.will be at track tomorrow night.hope you figure it out later Todd.

 

[hawaii-5-lo]

hello,its me again.my buddy Da Hawaiian Punch (on the C4 forum) just got back from the track, i though i would give one more comparison for you. remember our track is about .3 slower than the mainland.my only mod is the halltech t-1,and no mass air flow screen.i dont know if yours has one or not.i ran 13.460,i did manage to get my best 60ft time yet 2.206 like i said this track sucks,and so do run flat tires.but run what you brung. thats what i do,i only saw 1 ss go down, he had some kind of cat-back,but must have been stock,because he ran13.89.thats about what they all run stock out here.the local tuner had some ls1 f- bodies out.the only one i saw go down ran12.56,he also runs with slicks and NOS,exhaust,some kind of homemade intake,and some computer tuning. my witness listed above, has 91 L98,he homeported the intake runners and plenum,3:07 gears(stock),and is an auto.he ran 13.954 at 99m.p.h.that can beat an auto ls1 f-body, but he didnt get the chance.havent seen you post in a few days,hopfully the car is better and your out beating your friends cars.later Todd.