Feuling Aluminum BB Heads

[70 RED 454]

Does anyone have experience with installing FEULING aluminum heads on a 454 block? I purchased a 70 coupe with a 73 454 block with these heads.....and they are large. The stock alternator mounting cannot be used due to the extra sze of the head.

I'm currently trying to move the mounting further to the front in order to stop the belt squealing (current misalignment of pulleys). Anybody done this before?

I'm also curious if there is a belt that only runs over the crank and water pump pulleys. I have a factory Corvette assembly manual for a 1970 and it shows such a belt configuration.....but the auto parts stores don't have a listing of one.


Thanks.

Mike

 

[woobie1966]

mike,
are the fueling heads after markett or are they the small combustion chamber fuel injection heads from chevy?
i personally have never heard of them,
as far as the alternator, have you talked to march pulley? or one of the aftermarket pulley manufacturers? maybe they can get you set up and aligned
good luck
mike

 

[Jack]

http://www.feuling.com/tech/about.htm

jfeuling@feuling.com

Feuling Technologies
21561 PIONEER WAY
EL CAJON, CA 92020

ORDER LINE - 877-338-5464
TECH LINE - 619-579-5700
FAX LINE - 619-579-5701


Jim Feuling ... currently making hipo BBC & Harley heads & has done same for lotsa other marques.
JACK:gap

 

[woobie1966]

very cool, three valve heads!! now i see why they are bigger
they must put out awesome power
mike

 

[70 RED 454]

Thanks Jack for the web site.... I went there shortly after buying the car. I've also sent an email to Jim Feuling asking for a little help...haven't heard back yet.

The whole issue involves finding a place to position the alternator where the belt won't get hung up on the PS pump while at the same time not being too high and bumping the hood. I'm almost there.....maybe another night of fooling around.

I'd still like to know if there is such a thing as a belt just running over only the crank and water pump pullies. Obviously there is no adjusting the belt....it has to go on with the water pump unbolted from the block. I saw it in the manual...but does it make sense?

Appreciate any guidance.

Mike

 

[Jack]

I'd still like to know if there is such a thing as a belt just running over only the crank and water pump pullies. Obviously there is no adjusting the belt....it has to go on with the water pump unbolted from the block.Mike

Mike:
Oh I forgot ... welcome aboard CACC!

I can't speak to what's correct for your car ... BUT ... our circle track racers often have just that ... one belt running crank-wp pulley ... we find just the right length ... then put it on by pushing the wp pulley into position on pump hub ... then put in 4 bolts into wp hub-pulley ... we don't run mechanical fan. Our cars are sillouette bodies on tube frames ... they're not vettes. We don't have j. feuling heads. No alternator.
JACK:gap

 

[jsimpson]

I talked to Fuelling about those heads for my 70 a few years ago. The gist of the conversation is that they were designed to be the ultimate truck head, made for excellent efficiency and torque at the low and mid rang rpms.

 

[jsimpson]

...but if you're looking for different, they ARE the ticket!

 

[69_Dream]

I got an article in an old Vette magazine that talks about them... I even thought about seriously looking into them. If I remember correctly the article claimed an extra 100 horsepower, on a Big block!

I'd bet that ride of your is one wild ride!

I'll look through my pile of mags and see if I can find the article if you think that would help. Maybe I can scan it for you when I get to a scanner tomorrow... if you think that would help.

Sly

 

[MaineShark]

Mike: how about converting to a serpentine belt? I bet it would be easier to get one belt to align, than to get a bunch of separate belts to align. Basically, I would work out the correct position of the alternator, and the current position, then do some subtraction to figure out the change in location. Manufacture spacers of that thickness for the power steering and water pumps (and A/C compressor, if you have it), and there must be a way to adjust the alignment of the crank pulley (check the serpentine pulley - it may already move the belt farther forward). If you do it right, you should be able to get all the pulleys in one plane.

I think Vintage Air had a nice serpentine setup, too. You might contact them and find out whether they can do a custom job to make your system work.

Anyone know if they make those heads for small-blocks? Looks interesting...

Joe

 

[70 RED 454]

Thanks everyone.....I appreciate the guidance.

After a couple of attempts I think I've finally got it. I ended up milling a few 'protrusions' from the alternator, moved its mounting forward about 3 inches, fabricated a few new brackets (where I work we have a machine shop subsidiary) and performed a few more minor things. The alternator squeal is gone and the hood fits!

I still get a very slight squeal from the crank/fan/power steering belt when I get on it. I think after a while I'll put on a crank/fan belt and see if that helps.

Thanks again.

mike

 

[jsimpson]

Nope; they didn't make those heads for small blocks. They were made to make big block trucks more efficient. Naturally, GM wasn't interested in buying them, just like they passed up the Torqueflite in favor of the Roto-hydramatic and let Chrysler get it!