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Finally.........there's room.
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So much for my YIN /YANG theory
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Sorry Larry........but "sinister" was too good to walk away from.
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67, the color combo you mentioned above would look slick. Yes, black does show dirt easy.....but it looks killer when clean!! Swirl marks can be removed. Besides, cleaning a Vette is one of the joys of ownership.
Yes, black looks good when it's clean, but you spend all day cleaning and waxing it. By the time you go out for a drive to get some beer, it's dirty again. Even when it's in the garage, it gets covered with yellow tree pollen. It wasn't worth it to me....I traded my black '02 Z06 for a yellow '03 Z06. Best move I ever made...now it always looks clean!! :eyerole
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Stop it Patrick......I'm very fragile right now. I'm only days away from spraying. :cry :gap
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'67, of course it's your car, but be absolutely sure that's what you want and can deal with the downside. This is a one shot deal and you don't want painter's remorse!
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Still............"Black is Beautiful Baby.....dig it!!"
(Just keep a California duster handy)
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White with an electron blue stripe... that was your first choice, wasn't it?
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What can I say......black is the most wicked of all colors.
It looks fast sitting still....on a Vette it sends a loud and clear message.
"Hey, I don't need color to make me flash...I do it with my curves....If you don't like that, I do it with my motor.....so get out of the way"
Black with any degree of chrome, .... hmmmmmm, good!
That will make another super bad, super hot, super wicked black rat crawling around here....I like it!
It looks fast sitting still....on a Vette it sends a loud and clear message.
"Hey, I don't need color to make me flash...I do it with my curves....If you don't like that, I do it with my motor.....so get out of the way"
Black with any degree of chrome, .... hmmmmmm, good!
That will make another super bad, super hot, super wicked black rat crawling around here....I like it!
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I've had more black cars over the years than anything else. I've also said "never again" more than once but I always go back. The '59 was black originally and probably will be again. There are some tricks and products that make life with a black car fairly simple. You just have to get used to seeing dust. That's a problem with any dark car though.
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I presume one of them is the proper cloth and/or brush for washing. Recommendations?
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Flashback to 1976..... Canadian band called "Trooper"
Here they come
The boys in the bright white sports car
Waving their arms in the air
Who do they think they are
And where did they get that car
67Heaven knows where I stand on black cars. Sinister, schminister! When you're "dressed to excess" like your car is going to be, you don't need the mystique. With black, it has to be perfect or every flaw seems to jump out of the paint. If you drive the car, you can never keep it clean. Every coat of wax is an exercise in frustration. It's a constant battle which you can't win. Every time you want to go out, you'll have to 'prep' the car, instead of jumping in and driving. Are you prepared to deal with that?
67, you want your car to be a stand-out; that's why you don't want red because it's the most common colour. Well, guess what, buddy- black is the second most common colour. I would much rather see you going back to silver pearl w. black (a beautiful combo, remember?? that's how you ordered it for a reason!!) or pushing the envelope with the white w. electron blue and, in the end, I suspect you would be happier with the final product.
Dang, I'd promised myself I wouldn't delve into this one again as 67 seemed to have his mind set on the "noire et rouge" and I'm not the kind to nag, especially when it's really none of my business. Sorry, Bob- do what you feel is right. It's your car, it's your coin; but I still want to take it for a drive.
Here they come
The boys in the bright white sports car
Waving their arms in the air
Who do they think they are
And where did they get that car
67Heaven knows where I stand on black cars. Sinister, schminister! When you're "dressed to excess" like your car is going to be, you don't need the mystique. With black, it has to be perfect or every flaw seems to jump out of the paint. If you drive the car, you can never keep it clean. Every coat of wax is an exercise in frustration. It's a constant battle which you can't win. Every time you want to go out, you'll have to 'prep' the car, instead of jumping in and driving. Are you prepared to deal with that?
67, you want your car to be a stand-out; that's why you don't want red because it's the most common colour. Well, guess what, buddy- black is the second most common colour. I would much rather see you going back to silver pearl w. black (a beautiful combo, remember?? that's how you ordered it for a reason!!) or pushing the envelope with the white w. electron blue and, in the end, I suspect you would be happier with the final product.
Dang, I'd promised myself I wouldn't delve into this one again as 67 seemed to have his mind set on the "noire et rouge" and I'm not the kind to nag, especially when it's really none of my business. Sorry, Bob- do what you feel is right. It's your car, it's your coin; but I still want to take it for a drive.
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By the way, my painter tells me this is his check list for washing black show cars:
1. Don't paint it black.
2. If #1 is ignored, store indoors under cotton car cover.
3. Wash indoors with doors and windows closed.
4. Prior to washing, ground vehicle using metal chain over axle (yes even a fiberglass car due to metal birdcage, frame, etc.)
5. Blow all dust off using air compressor.
6. Dampen car thoroughly.
7. Wash lightly with lukewarm soapy water using terry cloth, being careful not to rub too hard.
8. Rinse well.
9. Blow dry with air compressor.
10. Remove chain.
11. Wait for sunny day.
12. Drive to beer store.
13. Return home and repeat first 12 steps.
1. Don't paint it black.
2. If #1 is ignored, store indoors under cotton car cover.
3. Wash indoors with doors and windows closed.
4. Prior to washing, ground vehicle using metal chain over axle (yes even a fiberglass car due to metal birdcage, frame, etc.)
5. Blow all dust off using air compressor.
6. Dampen car thoroughly.
7. Wash lightly with lukewarm soapy water using terry cloth, being careful not to rub too hard.
8. Rinse well.
9. Blow dry with air compressor.
10. Remove chain.
11. Wait for sunny day.
12. Drive to beer store.
13. Return home and repeat first 12 steps.
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I remember one of the threads on that udder forum where several of the guys discussed the last time they actually washed their cars. Most of them used alternative means to remove dust, rather than soap and water. Since you're not planning a trailer queen, I don't know if this is an option for you.
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hmmm, well,
Black on a customized Vette, or any vette is the ultimate "IN YOUR FACE" statement.
Mainly because it will show every flaw. Just stands to reason why the prep has to be that much better than the next guy.
A well done Black Vette says sooooo much more about the owner than a silver, red, white, blue...etc. A painter that does not like to do black...is either a lazy painter, a poor painter, or both.
Most painters that are really confident in their ability and proud of their work love to take on a black car. They know when it is done, you can truly gauge the level of perfection....because you can't hide screw ups, lazy body work, or signs of getting in a hurry.
Black is classic, never trendy, will give you the deepest shine...AND the MOST reward after spending time washing and waxing it.
There is nothing better than being able to see the fact you did not shave that morning when leaning into the black car to give it a final wax wipe. Can't do that with white.
I don't find my black car, or any of my past black cars all that hard to keep clean. Then again, I am not a "clean freak" and would rather loose points in a show in shine, then waste valuable drive time cleaning wax out of the emblems and body seam cracks.
I guess you know where my vote is....still.
Black on a customized Vette, or any vette is the ultimate "IN YOUR FACE" statement.
Mainly because it will show every flaw. Just stands to reason why the prep has to be that much better than the next guy.
A well done Black Vette says sooooo much more about the owner than a silver, red, white, blue...etc. A painter that does not like to do black...is either a lazy painter, a poor painter, or both.
Most painters that are really confident in their ability and proud of their work love to take on a black car. They know when it is done, you can truly gauge the level of perfection....because you can't hide screw ups, lazy body work, or signs of getting in a hurry.
Black is classic, never trendy, will give you the deepest shine...AND the MOST reward after spending time washing and waxing it.
There is nothing better than being able to see the fact you did not shave that morning when leaning into the black car to give it a final wax wipe. Can't do that with white.
I don't find my black car, or any of my past black cars all that hard to keep clean. Then again, I am not a "clean freak" and would rather loose points in a show in shine, then waste valuable drive time cleaning wax out of the emblems and body seam cracks.
I guess you know where my vote is....still.
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Okay, it's settled.
I'm painting the driver's half black and the passenger's half white. We'll see which side is easier.
I'm painting the driver's half black and the passenger's half white. We'll see which side is easier.
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I agree with most of what was said about washing the car. Use 100% cotton terry for both the was and dry. That should apply to any car though. Even white will swirl and show under certain lighting. Getting the most dirt off of the car before touching it is necessary also with any color or paint type. If you think you are getting a lot of dirt off of the car don't be affraid to change your wash water
The last black car I had as a daily driver always looked nice. I would take some liqued car wax, any good brand, and pour some in a spray bottle, maybe 1/4 or less full. Fill with water and shake to mix thoroughly. After I rinsed the car I would spray down the car one panel at a time and dry with a clean dry towel. Wipe it down quickly and go on to the next. First time around will get the water off without spotting. Second time around will leave a fresh waxed look without hardly any effort. About 15-20 minutes total time. I go through several towels when I dry anyhow so keeping a dry towel for this operation is no big thing to me. It also only takes a couple minutes more to spray the car down with the diluted wax than I spend anyhow.
I don't know how this compares to the new detailing sprays. Last year when I used that '02 yellow convert for a couple days for pics I found that spray to be fast and do a very nice job of keeping the car looking nice. I would guess that you could wash your black car, dry it and then use the detailing sspray just as fast as my meathod above to get the fresh waxed look and eliminate any streaking.
The advice about washing indoors is essential. Never wash a hot car or do it in the sun. In a garage with a drain, carport, early in the morning or even late evening works. No hot surfaces, diirect sun or even engine heat is wanted. A large shade tree without birds or sap may even work.
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The last black car I had as a daily driver always looked nice. I would take some liqued car wax, any good brand, and pour some in a spray bottle, maybe 1/4 or less full. Fill with water and shake to mix thoroughly. After I rinsed the car I would spray down the car one panel at a time and dry with a clean dry towel. Wipe it down quickly and go on to the next. First time around will get the water off without spotting. Second time around will leave a fresh waxed look without hardly any effort. About 15-20 minutes total time. I go through several towels when I dry anyhow so keeping a dry towel for this operation is no big thing to me. It also only takes a couple minutes more to spray the car down with the diluted wax than I spend anyhow.
I don't know how this compares to the new detailing sprays. Last year when I used that '02 yellow convert for a couple days for pics I found that spray to be fast and do a very nice job of keeping the car looking nice. I would guess that you could wash your black car, dry it and then use the detailing sspray just as fast as my meathod above to get the fresh waxed look and eliminate any streaking.
The advice about washing indoors is essential. Never wash a hot car or do it in the sun. In a garage with a drain, carport, early in the morning or even late evening works. No hot surfaces, diirect sun or even engine heat is wanted. A large shade tree without birds or sap may even work.
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I never said I didnt like black,As a matter of fact its one of my favorite colors on a car,BUT I still think silver should be the choice,
As for the care of a black car its no so bad and probabley any person reading this forum cares for there car paint 100 times more then the normal person with any car, Most of us a re car lovers anyways and enjoy waxing and cleaning our cars.
Below are photos from my caddy It was out for parade duty today but we got rained out.This car has not been washed in more then a year and the only thing Ii have to use on it is a locally made spray detailers wax.
Had it not been sitting in the rain my reflextion would of been in the pictures Sharp as a tack
picture one
picture 2
Ps The car is still wet in the garage I will be going out to the garage and spraying the car while wet with my spray detailer and then whiping it down with my towels
As for the care of a black car its no so bad and probabley any person reading this forum cares for there car paint 100 times more then the normal person with any car, Most of us a re car lovers anyways and enjoy waxing and cleaning our cars.
Below are photos from my caddy It was out for parade duty today but we got rained out.This car has not been washed in more then a year and the only thing Ii have to use on it is a locally made spray detailers wax.
Had it not been sitting in the rain my reflextion would of been in the pictures Sharp as a tack
picture one
picture 2
Ps The car is still wet in the garage I will be going out to the garage and spraying the car while wet with my spray detailer and then whiping it down with my towels
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Man that Caddy is a beauty!!!!!!!!!
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The main thing with a black car is, how picky are you? I had one black car and it just about drove me crazy. I just couldn't keep it clean enough to suit me. If on the other hand it won't bother you to look out over the hood and see that light haze of dust only 30 minutes after you washed it then go for it. If you are a perfectionist forget it because it will make you nuts! I won't go there again.
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