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Help!! No Dash / Tail Lights

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My dash and tail lights do not work. I have reviewed several other posts and have checked fuses 2, 6 and 20 in the interior electrical panel. I have also checked the 23 pin connector (C209) that is to the left of the steering column. All seem to check out fine. Any other ideas?? :confused

Thanks,

Bob
 
Yes, the approach lights work with the transmitter (I checked this evening). So does that mean a switch? Is the switch able to be replaced easily?

Thanks for your help!!

Bob

:confused
 
Hi there,
I would suggest switch at this point.
If you are handy with tools and can remove the steering wheel, then you should be fine.
Just remember to disconnect the negative battery cable for 15 mins before you start working on the vehicle.
Allthebest, c4c5:hb
 
Well here we go long story, short version...

Dealer tells me that the problem is the BCM (Body Control Module). To replace is +$500. I ask...
1. Are you sure it is not a grounding problem? Yes the fault isolation says BCM.
2. OK can I order one and replace my self? Well, we need to program it with the codes and firmware.
3 And oh by the way, not it's covered by the extended warranty.

Am I getting ripped off?

Suggestions??

Thanks,

Bob
 
Thanks for the reply.


Late Friday the dealer tells me that the tech can not get the new BCM programmed because of another problem. Now it's the switch in the steering column.

Of course this is what we suspected all along. He that the bad switch fried the BCM ( I'm skeptical!!). Especially because there were no codes, no other problems etc.

Questions.

1. Do you think the switch could fry the BCM?
2. Bad troubleshooting?
3. Suggestions

Thanks a million.

Bob
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Im sorry, but I cannot speculate here. I do not see the correlation, however, I am not repairing the vehicle.
Sorry, I cannot help further here.
If I were you, I would request all parts before the repair is completed.
Allthebest, c4c5:hb
 
For what it's worth, my '65 Impala used to do the exact same thing. Rear tail lights, brake lights, and dash lights would all go out in unison. Turned out to be nothing more than dirty contacts on the old mechanical switch. As already mentioned by someone else, I strongly suspect your only problem is a bad switch, not the BCM. Seems to defy common sense that a switch going from NC to permanently open or vice versa could fry a BCM. I would insist that the dealer replace the switch first and then your BCM if unsuccessful. If the BCM is already swapped, insist that the dealer put your old one back in when the new switch is installed. If everything works, then the dealer owns the replacement BCM and your only repair bill should be for replacing the switch, especially considering the BCM cost. Are they using diagnostic codes to try to fix your problem? I hope not. A diagnostic code is nothing more than an aid for finding the problem. A dealer would have to be lazy or incompetent to think that any diagnostic code pinpoints the exact problem, in this case your BCM. To the contrary, the code is just an arrow pointing in the general direction of the problem in order to give repair personnel a better idea of where to look. Obviously, the better the repair personnel, then the more they use their knowledge and common sense to find the problem and fix it correctly the first time at reasonable cost to you. Don't let them willy nilly swap out components until they find the problem, since that would harken back to the days before diagnostic systems and be an expensive (and unacceptable) repair methodology for a modern car.

Good luck!
 

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