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I bought an 86 about a month ago. The idle is running a little high. The guy I bought the car from said, he added a high performance cam, rebuilt the engine and it's running straight pipes. He said to modify the maf and that will even out the idle.

Any thoughts?

Thanks
 
modifying the maf will not lower your idle.

Is your service engine soon light on?

If not, then what rpm does your car idle at?

I have a pretty big hyd. roller cam that idles at 850 rpm in drive and ~900 in park/neutral.

Do you know the spec's on your cam???
 
You may just have to redo the idle learn process. Did he tell you what cam it was and what it is supposed to idle at? I've got a 219/219 cam with .560" lift on both sides and she idles like a dream at 950 RPM.

I would also check the TPS to make sure it is within .54v-.68v at idle. If he adjusted the TB blades it'll screw that up for sure.
 
Service light light isn't on.

Idle is between 750 and 950 rpm.

Don't know the specs on the cam.

How do I adjust the learn process and what is the TPS.

Reason I think the idle is set to high, is when I shrift from netural to drive/reverse the tranny bangs.
 
also make sure you have a gm not aftermarket pcv valve i have seen these give problems the aftermarkets are not calibrated correctlyand flow to much air causing a high idle steve:upthumbs
 
vince v said:
Service light light isn't on.

Idle is between 750 and 950 rpm.

Don't know the specs on the cam.

How do I adjust the learn process and what is the TPS.

Reason I think the idle is set to high, is when I shrift from netural to drive/reverse the tranny bangs.


you need to adj. the t.v. cable comming from the tranny to the throttle body.
 
How to Adjust your Early C4 TPS and Idle Speed

This tech paper will discuss the procedure for
correct adjustment of the Minimum Idle Speed and for adjustment of the
Throttle Position Switch (TPS) on the early C4 Corvette TPI systems.
These steps apply specifically to the 1985 model year, and in general to
other years. Later model years do not have adjustable
TPS’s.

General
Idle speed and off-idle throttle response
on the early TPI systems is determined by correct adjustment of the
minimum idle speed screw combined with a correct setting of the TPS.
I’ve seen many of these cars that have had their idle speed
“corrected” by well-intentioned mechanics and owners by simply
screwing the minimum idle speed screw in a few turns. This really messes
up the settings, and will not make your car perform properly. Doing a
correct setup of the TPS is one of the easiest ways to make your car feel
and respond better. To maximize the benefit of this procedure, I
recommend that you first remove your Throttle Body (TB), disassemble it
(it’s incredible easy – there are a total of about 5 pieces in
it…), clean the TB up really good with some spray carb cleaner, and
put it back together. A nice clean TB will really put an edge on the
performance improvement you will get by doing this procedure.

The
Service Manual has instructions for doing these operations, but the
directions are scattered through several sections of the Manual. Here is
the complete, step-by-step process for doing this (not including TB
rebuild). All specs and steps are taken directly from the Manual (all 3
different sections), and this process is absolutely
correct.


Tools & Equipment
You will need the following tools
and equipment:

1. A set of Torx wrenches. You can buy a complete
set in a nice, genuine plastic pouch at Sears.
2. A good digital
voltmeter that will read voltages less than 1 volt.
3. A paper
clip.
4. A small screwdriver.


Procedure
There are two
electrical components on the TB that you will be working with: The TPS and
the Idle Air Control Valve (IAC). Make sure that the connectors for these
two components are easily accessible and that you can easily disconnect
the IAC.

You will also be playing with the diagnostic connector
under the dash. Remove the cover (if it’s still in place). Bend
your paper clip into a “U” shape. You will be playing with
the two top right hand terminals (“A” and “B”) in
the connector.

· First step is to set the minimum idle speed. If
nobody has messed with this on your car before, the set screw will be
covered by a pressed-in plug. It’s located on the driver’s
side of the TB. Remove this plug if it’s there.
· With the
IAC connected and the ignition “OFF,” stick the paper clip
into the diagnostic connector from “A” to “B.”
This grounds the diagnostic lead.
· Turn the ignition to the
“ON” position without starting the engine. Wait 30
seconds.
· Now, with the ignition still in the “ON”
position, disconnect the IAC connector at the IAC.
· Remove the paper
clip from the diagnostic connector.
· Start the engine and allow
it to reach normal operating temperature. The idle speed will probably be
really low, and you may have to coax the engine a bit with the gas pedal
to keep it running for a while.
· If your car is an automatic, set
the parking brake and put the transmission in “DRIVE.” If your
car is a manual, leave it in neutral.
· Adjust the idle speed
screw to obtain 400 rpm in drive or 450 in neutral.
· Shut off
the engine and re-connect the IAC.

That’s it for idle speed.
Now on to the TPS.

There are 3 wires stacked vertically on the TPS.
You will need to be able to measure the voltage between the two top wires.
You can either buy a special harness connector that breaks these wires out
(from Mid America), or gently pierce the insulation of the wires with the
pointy prongs on your volt meter. You can also stick a paper clip into
each of the two top locations of the connector and clamp onto the paper
clips to measure the voltage. Whatever is easiest for you.

·
Turn the ignition to the “ON” position without starting the
engine.
· Loosen the TPS Torx adjustment screws.
· Set your
volt meter to a low scale DC volt setting that will accurately read less
than 1 volt.
· Measure the voltage between the two top TPS
wires.
· Adjust the TPS by rotating its position until you get a
reading of .54 volts.
· Tighten the Torx screws and recheck the
voltage. Re-adjust if necessary to make sure voltage is right at
.54.
· Turn the ignition “OFF.”

You are now in
perfect adjustment on idle speed and TPS output. Start the engine. It
may take a few seconds for the car to “catch on” to its new
settings.

ITS A LITTLE LONG BUT I HOPE THIS PUTS YOUR SITUATION TO REST.:D How to Adjust your Early C4 TPS and Idle Speed
 
Thanks to all.

I'll check the TPS and pcv valve. Also, the t.v. cable comming from the tranny to the throttle body. I'll post afterwards with the results.

Vince
 
89Pacer,
Does this process work on a '84 vette? At start up it will idle at around 1300rpm. Then after several minutes idle down to around 700.
This car has not been driven for many years, but I do start it from time to time.
Also anyone know the best place for insurance?
Thanks for your help, Al
 
the 84 is an animal all its own you need special water gages [ manometer] to sync and set up the throttle bodies before a min air rate adjustment steve :hb :( :w
 
I AGREE, THE 84 CROSSFIRE IS A DIFFERENT ANIMAL.

ScubaAl MY 86 IDLES A LIITLE HIGHER AT START UP TOO. THEN IN A FEW MINUTES WHEN IT WARMS UP SOME THE IDLE DROPS DOWN TO ABOUT 700RPM AND STAYS THERE. IF YOUR IDLE FALLS BACK DOWN TO 700RPM LIKE YOU STATED AND STAYS THERE AFTER A FEW MINUTES OF WARMING UP, ITS NORMAL. AS FAR AS INSURANCE I CAN ONLY TELL YOU THAT IT IS DIFFERENT IN OTHER STATES. FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN I WAS IN NORTH CAROLINA I PAID $108/ MO FOR FULL COVERAGE. THEN CAME TO CALIFORNIA WITH SAME CAR, SAME DRIVING RECORD, SAME COMPANY (STATE FARM INSURANCE) SAME EVERYTHING, IT WAS NOW $150/MO. I WOULD SHOP ARROUND. HEY WELCOME TO THE CAC BY THE WAY AL!

:w :CAC
 

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