How many 67 427's are real?

[Jim Hester]

I clipped this from another forum:




I sent an email to B-J about this car, I thought you might like to see it along with their response...

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Have you been made aware of this claim about your lot number 450.1 at your last auction? Please follow this link and read - http://www.docrebuild.com/dr-r-web/currentevents-56a.html

If this is true at the very least you should publicize who "restored" this car from a yellow small block into a black big block car...

Thanks for your attention, your reply is appreciated.
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These are not our cars, and we do not represent them. They are represented by the owner. We provide the venue that brings buyers and sellers together. Thanx—John
John Cook, Barrett-Jackson Consignment Liaison


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Caveat emptor, indeed!

When did you contact B-J?

 

[BarryK]

And, it's certainly easier to believe their lineage, is it not?

well, I would have thought believing the lineage of a SB would be easier until my friend just sold his '65 numbers matching vert. ("just" a '65 - not the "more desireable" '67). When he bought it it was sold to him as an original, numbers matching car. He checked every number on the car himself multiple times before purchasing the car and he is not a novice when it comes to older Vettes. This car was his 7th Vette and not his first C2.
Surprise, surprise when the person who just bought it from him last month turns out to be one of the previous owners of the car from about 7 years ago and when THAT guy sold the car he distinctly sold it at the time as a NON-ORIGINNAL, NON-NUMBERS MATCHING car. Sometime between the time that prior owner sold the car and my friend purchased it someone faked up the car as numbers matching car, had the motor restamped, etc.
On expensive '67 BB cars I understand how some people choose to fake up these cars because of market values (I don't agree with the practice of doing it, but I understand how less-ethical people get tempted to do it), but on a basic '65 L-79 I just don't see where the expense incurred makes it worth the unethical approach.
It just means that whether ir not it's a BB or a SB you really have to know what you are looking at before you buy and even than it's hard to be 100% sure.

 

[67HEAVEN]

When I finally get around to selling my '67, I'll point out the desireability of owning the one-of-a-kind '67 big block with the ZR-X COPO wide body fenders, the C2 pilot to the later C3 L-88 fender flare parts. I made sure to preserve the ZR-X grease pencil codes up under all four wheelwells during the project.

You think that 12-mile '67 L-88 went for a lot of money.

:blow

 

[Vader]

Well, that is informative. So much for integrity.

FWIW, the only '67 427 I'm aware of is genuine (stock as a rock except for tires and brake pads), does have a PowerGlide and three Holleys, and isn't for sale. I think the guy has a pretty good idea of the value.

 

[TWINRAY]

When I bought my Corvettes in the early and mid 70's, the 427's weren't desirable to me because I figured the owners beat the **** out of them. Matching numbers weren't even a consideration then. Most motors were blown and had replacements anyway. In fact, it was harder to sell a BB car than a SB. I looked at a '69 427 (don't remember but it probably was the 390HP) and the guy didn't even put in the paper that it was a 427. I asked him why and this is what he told me. Maybe an isolated instance. I was looking then just for clean, unmolested cars. There were some abombinations even then. I remember mid years with 409's and even 2bbl. Impala engines. One guy was touting the great mpg his '65 SB got with that 2bbl Impala engine. There were 60's with '62 backs. There was even a '56 with a 3 bbl carb that I, for the life of me, couldn't keep running during the test drive - the owner had to drive it. Should have still bought that one since when I told him I wasn't interested in his $600 (yes that was the price back in about 1970-1) asking price, he asked me how much I'd give him. I totally agree that most of these mid year BB's are really good fakes.

 

[66rag427]

Mileage on these cars is whatever you want it to be. Changeing the odo is just too easy. I think once the word gets around just how much was forged on the 802 (OLD eyes)car the value of the 427 cars will drop to %10/15 priemum over the 327 cars. If you have one and want the big money better act now. Bloomington will be the real first test of this.

Tyler

Won't happen. There was a documented fake (oxymoron) 1965 396/425 at Barret 2 years ago. It was a late 64 VIN and 396's weren't available for corvette until spring 65. It went for $120K and everyone but the bidder (s) knew it was a fake. Didn't change a thing. Big blocks are still crazy.

 

[kingman]

Rather have a grd up resto!

There are some shops that when they are finished they are better then when they came out of the showroom. Everything works right, updated everything, better paint, chrome, glass? And the engine and tranny were done right.

Now it might cost a couple of big ones, like 60 to 80 large. but it's worth it.

They always say that it's cheaper to buy a excellent grd up resto then to do it yourself from scratch.

Alan